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Old 01-17-2009, 06:58 PM
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I want to weigh in on this one. I started smoking when I was 19 and backslidden. I came back to the Lord two or three years later. It took me over ten years to kick this habit! Whether smoking is a sin or not I don't know, but I can honestly say cigarettes are the devil!

I have done my research and the modern cigarette is a finely tuned instrument of nicotine addiction. It hads been specifically developed to deliver a high of nicotine that will last about an hour or two before the user needs another hit.

I see this as an issue of living life more abundantly, not sin or heaven/hell. I have met very few people who are over 25 and are happy that they smoke. Go talk to some smokers and they will tell you how many times they have tried to quit.

If there is someone out there who is struggling with this addiction, don't look for excuses to stay smoking. So what if you can stay saved and smoke? Thats not going to give you life more abundantly. If you partner with God he can and will deliver you of nicotine addiction! I am living proof.

Excellent and heart felt post. Thank you.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:19 AM
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The devil is like a roaring lion roaming to and frough seeking whom he may devour.Satan wants to kill us any way he can before we can witness,share,love,being the greatest of them all and praying for our loved ones salvation.He wants to kill us before our work is done.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:18 AM
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here how i see it . anything you have to get delivered from is sin. smokeing is definitly one of them.if you have never casted a nicoteen spirit off someone, whew its nasty. puke up brown stuff all over the place ..i can think of about 4 times this has happened in our ministry . usually people that smoke or have friends that smoke run to the eating or whatever to cover it up.

when you get done running around your bush it will still be sin ,just because you ease your conscience ,because others agree with you still wont help you either come judgement day.!i shall pray for you . and if you have a spirit of glutony that wrong too.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:48 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

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here how i see it . anything you have to get delivered from is sin. smokeing is definitly one of them.if you have never casted a nicoteen spirit off someone, whew its nasty. puke up brown stuff all over the place ..i can think of about 4 times this has happened in our ministry . usually people that smoke or have friends that smoke run to the eating or whatever to cover it up.

when you get done running around your bush it will still be sin ,just because you ease your conscience ,because others agree with you still wont help you either come judgement day.!i shall pray for you . and if you have a spirit of glutony that wrong too.
honest question....does every person who smokes have a "nicoteen spirit"? Or do some just smoke?
What about those other things people get addicted to(coffee, chocolate, etc...)...do they have a spirit or just a destructive habit?
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honest question....does every person who smokes have a "nicoteen spirit"? Or do some just smoke?
What about those other things people get addicted to(coffee, chocolate, etc...)...do they have a spirit or just a destructive habit?
No one wants to talk about that coffee/chocolate/food destructive habit - just the smoking - I personally see no difference in smoking and any other thing that you willing do that destroys your body but I have never heard any preacher preach it that way.
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No one wants to talk about that coffee/chocolate/food destructive habit - just the smoking - I personally see no difference in smoking and any other thing that you willing do that destroys your body but I have never heard any preacher preach it that way.
I don't drink coffee, but will have 3 cans of Coke before noon on most days (and a few more between noon and bedtime). I have yet to hear anyone preaching against Coke -the only one who does is my dentist.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:51 AM
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I guess my question was not so much about what is preached...but rather about what all has a "spirit" attached to it. Do you believe that coke, coffee, and chocolate have "spirits" or are they simple bad?
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:55 AM
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I believe that the only "spirits" are those associated with living, or once living, things. This idea that there is a spirit to go with everything -be it coffee, nicotine, porn, make-up, music, and the list is truly endless, sounds like something from religion practiced by the original native Americans.
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here how i see it . anything you have to get delivered from is sin. smokeing is definitly one of them.if you have never casted a nicoteen spirit off someone, whew its nasty. puke up brown stuff all over the place ..i can think of about 4 times this has happened in our ministry . usually people that smoke or have friends that smoke run to the eating or whatever to cover it up.

when you get done running around your bush it will still be sin ,just because you ease your conscience ,because others agree with you still wont help you either come judgement day.!i shall pray for you . and if you have a spirit of glutony that wrong too.
*Namecalling Edited by Admin* Your thought makes no sence. Run to eating to cover it up? Sorry but that one dosn't hold any weight. Have you ever been around a smoker? They stink. You can't hide it no matter what you do. A spirt of glutony? Then every church going person would be going to hell.
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*Edited by admin Your thought makes no sence. Run to eating to cover it up? Sorry but that one dosn't hold any weight. Have you ever been around a smoker? They stink. You can't hide it no matter what you do. A spirt of glutony? Then every church going person would be going to hell.
Well - the bible does say gluttony is a sin - can you make it to heaven with sin in your life?
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