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Old 02-11-2009, 09:42 AM
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Who Is Really Setting the Agenda?

I've pretty much resigned from most of these threads, but there is something that is bothering me. As it relates to the Bush bailout then the Obama bailout, I can't think of any other time when administrations from both parties were ever so equally determined to push for such an unpopular and unprecedented policy. To me it begs the questions; who is really setting this agenda?, why is the same agenda so prevalent in both administration?, and who have been the ones who directly benefitted from the Bush money who also stand to benefit from the Obama money?
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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Re: Who Is Really Setting the Agenda?

Great questions!

I'm sure someone here will have an opinion.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:45 AM
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I've pretty much resigned from most of these threads, but there is something that is bothering me. As it relates to the Bush bailout then the Obama bailout, I can't think of any other time when administrations from both parties were ever so equally determined to push for such an unpopular and unprecedented policy. To me it begs the questions; who is really setting this agenda?, why is the same agenda so prevalent in both administration?, and who have been the ones who directly benefitted from the Bush money who also stand to benefit from the Obama money?
I have been wondering about this as well. Kind of makes you wonder what President Obama found out once he was in office. Because some people are getting benefits out of this somehow.
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Re: Who Is Really Setting the Agenda?

Good questions, STEW!!!! I've had the same questions and concerns on my mind!!! I don't have the answer, but something is rotten in Denmark!!!!
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Can you say spiritual wickedness in high places?


(tstew, are you resigning from AFF or from political threads?)
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Re: Who Is Really Setting the Agenda?

I believe the Democrats and the Republicans are just the left and right hands of the same machine. They keep the American people divided so that they can further a greater agenda. If the American people weren't so divided over petty and unsolvable issues... they'd never stand a chance to get their agenda in place piece by piece.
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I believe the Democrats and the Republicans are just the left and right hands of the same machine. They keep the American people divided so that they can further a greater agenda. If the American people weren't so divided over petty and unsolvable issues... they'd never stand a chance to get their agenda in place piece by piece.
Who is "they"? The "left" of the Democrats and Republicans? Perhaps it is an ideology that some in both parties embrace.
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I believe the Democrats and the Republicans are just the left and right hands of the same machine. They keep the American people divided so that they can further a greater agenda. If the American people weren't so divided over petty and unsolvable issues... they'd never stand a chance to get their agenda in place piece by piece.
What's the agenda?
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(tstew, are you resigning from AFF or from political threads?)
I've been unbelievabley busy, but I did also feel the need to step away for a while. I just had a few issues I had to step away from here....(I'll just leave it at that )

I guess what prompted this thread was my same feelings about partisanship. I just feel that due to partisanship, politicians will always be getting almost a free pass from at least half of the country as they all sell us up the river. They can all be doing the exact same thing, but only have to face the wrath of half of us who are concerned.
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I've pretty much resigned from most of these threads, but there is something that is bothering me. As it relates to the Bush bailout then the Obama bailout, I can't think of any other time when administrations from both parties were ever so equally determined to push for such an unpopular and unprecedented policy. To me it begs the questions; who is really setting this agenda?, why is the same agenda so prevalent in both administration?, and who have been the ones who directly benefitted from the Bush money who also stand to benefit from the Obama money?
I completely agree with the basis for your 'wonderment'.

The "freakish" zeal, the mammoth debt (quantum leap in new leveraging per unit time), to enable governmental hyper-spending scheme that was so rapidly conceived that it can not include time for a national debate.

How many times will we see that "fallen condition of man" revealed in how the "lenders" make the borrowers servants. IMO, banking should be fully administered as a public trust (same as a nation's currency).

A prosperous nation does not need a "private" platform for such public consequence. There is a reason we have public ownership of core, structural elements of our society. The big five banks (which apparently dwarf all the mid-sized ones) completely violated a public trust in persuit of profit, acting as "for=profit" corporations I do not blame them for their persuit. The folly is a nation's policy that is built on the expectation that you can give a national monetary policy to the profiteers for safe-keeping.

We are living during a magnificient paradigm shift.
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