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Old 02-11-2009, 10:06 AM
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I've been unbelievabley busy, but I did also feel the need to step away for a while. I just had a few issues I had to step away from here....(I'll just leave it at that )

I guess what prompted this thread was my same feelings about partisanship. I just feel that due to partisanship, politicians will always be getting almost a free pass from at least half of the country as they all sell us up the river. They can all be doing the exact same thing, but only have to face the wrath of half of us who are concerned.
I agree to a point, Stew. I do believe the record will show that the Republicans, by large, do not give their people the moral passes that the Democrats normally do.

I do agree that partisanship is a big issue. For one embarrassing example, I NEVER one time checked into the life and ideology of Colin Powell. I believed him because the Republicans wanted him. Many things about him that I DO NOT agree with. I should have checked him out for myself.

Anyway, after this election, I am rethinking a whole lot of things and where I stand with them.
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Re: Who Is Really Setting the Agenda?

I've wondered the same thing. These bills are tremendously unpopular with the American public. WHY are they ignoring that??
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I've wondered the same thing. These bills are tremendously unpopular with the American public. WHY are they ignoring that??
Unpopular with 64% to be exact, but the media is not reporting it!
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:17 AM
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I completely agree with the basis for your 'wonderment'.

The "freakish" zeal, the mammoth debt (quantum leap in new leveraging per unit time), to enable governmental hyper-spending scheme that was so rapidly conceived that it can not include time for a national debate.

How many times will we see that "fallen condition of man" revealed in how the "lenders" make the borrowers servants. IMO, banking should be fully administered as a public trust (same as a nation's currency).

A prosperous nation does not need a "private" platform for such public consequence. There is a reason we have public ownership of core, structural elements of our society.

We are living during a magnificient paradigm shift.
"Freakish zeal"...I think that describes it perfectly. It is strange how both administrations displayed it to almost the same degree. I can't think of any other issue where this has happened.
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Is it possible they are preparing for something we don't know about?
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I've pretty much resigned from most of these threads, but there is something that is bothering me. As it relates to the Bush bailout then the Obama bailout, I can't think of any other time when administrations from both parties were ever so equally determined to push for such an unpopular and unprecedented policy. To me it begs the questions; who is really setting this agenda?, why is the same agenda so prevalent in both administration?, and who have been the ones who directly benefitted from the Bush money who also stand to benefit from the Obama money?
The International Bankers.
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I've pretty much resigned from most of these threads, but there is something that is bothering me. As it relates to the Bush bailout then the Obama bailout, I can't think of any other time when administrations from both parties were ever so equally determined to push for such an unpopular and unprecedented policy. To me it begs the questions; who is really setting this agenda?, why is the same agenda so prevalent in both administration?, and who have been the ones who directly benefitted from the Bush money who also stand to benefit from the Obama money?
I don't know, but I'm unhappy with the entire government at this point, regardless of party. They all stink!!!!
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The International Bankers.
You are probably very correct!!!!
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"Freakish zeal"...I think that describes it perfectly. It is strange how both administrations displayed it to almost the same degree. I can't think of any other issue where this has happened.
I also feel a bit offended at the voracity the Republicans are displaying with this new bailout procedure when they should have been doing this all along with Bush. I'm thinking - "Where have you been people?!!!"

I know they worked on some things and opposed some things - but not loud enough!!
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You are probably very correct!!!!
You are probably right that I am probably way correct.

These "bailouts" are like someone cutting holes in the bottom of the boat ranting how this is going to let the water out.

Billions upon billions upon billions of money poured into an economy doesn't stimulate it.... except for a very short lived spike...

What it does is water down an already weak dollar and ensure the collapse ahead is mind boggling indeed.

The thing is this...

The politicians can't be this stupid.... but, in the back of our minds, we prefer to think that they are actually that stupid because the alternative is that they are that evil.

When we are in a sinking ship and someone does something to "save us" and what they are doing is making the situation worse we first look warily on.

Then we begin to ask questions but give them the benefit of the doubt.

When it becomes clear that they here for the express purpose to ensure the sinking of the ship it is, generally, too late to stop it.

The politicians of this day are driving us head long into ruin at break neck speeds.
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