No More Walls blog show seeks Apostolic Unity

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Sam

Not all of us are that way.
Don't paint us all with that broad brush.

I have never been licensed or ordained in the UPC, but over the years have been part of several UPC churches as I've lived in different areas. In my opinion, I wish they all had believed in, adhered to, and practiced the fundamental doctrine statement as published in 1945.

I'm only painting those who are militantly being divisive by calling three steppers heretics with my brush. I hope it's a thin brush and only looks thick because AFF has a larger concentration of militant onesteppers than in Pentecost in general.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm only painting those who are militantly being divisive by calling three steppers heretics with my brush. I hope it's a thin brush and only looks thick because AFF has a larger concentration of militant onesteppers than in Pentecost in general.

I believe that's the case.

I'm convinced that most 1-steppers who used to be 3-steppers have simply moved on. Rarely do they feel the need to be on a crusade to look back where they came from and work to torpedo the 3-step doctrine.

You'll see a lot more of that stuff here than you will in real life.

[jeffadams]

it took a long time to load todays show but it was really good. These guys are doing a great work for God

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by jeffadams

it took a long time to load todays show but it was really good. These guys are doing a great work for God

What was today's session about?

[bishopnl]

Heresy?

If those believing that the completion of Acts 2:38 is what constitutes full biblical salvation, are heretics, where does that leave those who fellowship with them?

Titus 3 10A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

11Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Where does that leave the Goss's, Gurley's, and Yadon's who have been touted on this forum, men who joined together with "3-steppers" to fulfill the great commission?

[jeffadams]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

What was today's session about?

It was about soul winning...they had an evangelist and a pastor on there talking about winning souls. Pretty good show.

Who are these guys who started this? I have never heard of them before now?

[Hesetmefree238]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

How did you know that the Lord filled you with the Holy Ghost? Didn't you already receive the Spirit of Christ when you believed?

I had not received the Spirit infilling any more than the Samaritans had
received it, who had already believed in Jesus and been baptized in his name,
but yet they had not received the Holy Ghost until Peter and John
came down and prayed for them. (Acts 8)

My testimony is that I was raised Southern Baptist. I learned a lot of my
foundational beliefs during that time. Good things, such as
1. God loves me
2. Christ died for my sins and rose from the dead
but, I always felt like that there had to be more to it, than just believing.
There was something missing in way of a more tangible experience that
I could feel. Once, I felt the move of the Holy Ghost, (this happened to me
in my first visit to a UPC church) I knew there was more that God had in
store for me than what I had been lead to believe in the church of my
upbringing. I was only a teenager at this time, and what I felt impacted me
so that I went home and woke my mother up and told her about what I
had felt in that service.
There are a lot of good Baptist folks, but the deep move of God was missing
in the church I grew up in, and this is the case in most baptist churches
that I am familiar with. The move of the Holy Ghost that I felt led me to
believe that there was more at work in the Pentecostal church than what
I been experiencing in my local baptist church. This is why I take exception
to your statement that you had rather point a person to the local Southern
Baptist church than to the UPC. What happened in my life contradicts the
validity of what you are inferring.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238

There are a lot of God Baptist folks, but the deep move of God was missing
in the church I grew up in, and this is the case in most baptist churches
that I am familiar with. The move of the Holy Ghost that I felt led me to
believe that there was more at work in the Pentecostal church than what
I been experiencing in my local baptist church. This is why I take exception
to your statement that you had rather point a person to the local Southern
Baptist church than to the UPC. What happened in my life contradicts the
validity of what you are inferring.

Thank you for your testimony.

And I would never send someone to a Baptist church to hear the gospel.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238

There are a lot of good Baptist folks, but the deep move of God was missing
in the church I grew up in, and this is the case in most baptist churches
that I am familiar with. The move of the Holy Ghost that I felt led me to
believe that there was more at work in the Pentecostal church than what
I been experiencing in my local baptist church. This is why I take exception to your statement that you had rather point a person to the local Southern Baptist church than to the UPC. What happened in my life contradicts the validity of what you are inferring.

That wasnt Mizpeh that said that. That was Deltaguitar.
Apparently, he thinks a Baptist church is a better spiritual evironment for a new believer than a UPC church.:

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't claim tolerance. I can't be tolerant to something that I know hindered my relationship with God. I believe in the three-steps but I can't go along with adding them to the new birth. I am Pentecostal but I when I was in the UPC I was not the only young person in my church to send folks to the local baptist church. I just couldn't trust where I was with the soul of a new convert.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

That wasnt Mizpeh that said that. That was Deltaguitar.
Apparently, he thinks a Baptist church is a better spiritual evironment for a new believer than a UPC church.:

I would say that depends on the local Baptist church and the local UPC church.