Did Adam And Eat Meat ? - Page 5

pelathais · #41 02-23-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

According to the bible PEOPLE didn't eat meat -most likely not until after the flood but definitely not until after the fall.

So all Cain had was "bread alone?"

Perhaps a salad and a beverage.

RandyWayne · #42 02-23-2009, 05:42 PM

He probably enjoyed some of Abel's succulent livestock, slowly roasted over an open pit.....

<cue Good Eats theme music>

UrbanMissions · #43 02-23-2009, 05:47 PM

Checking again , I see that people were given evrything to eat but animals were not as specific .

A bit strange that God said this though , any thoughts ?

And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man.
Gen 9:5 (ESV)

pelathais · #44 02-23-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanMissions

Checking again , I see that people were given evrything to eat but animals were not as specific .

A bit strange that God said this though , any thoughts ?

And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man.
Gen 9:5 (ESV)

If a beast killed a man then the blood of the dead would cry out for vengence.

Exodus 21:12; Exodus 21:28-29; Psalm 9:12.

Praxeas · #45 02-23-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Uh... no.

Unless there's any truth about that one guy in the Enquirer - but then I'm too squeemish to look into that.

However, the process of parthenogenesis (virgin birth) is commonly seen in nature. This has led me to conclude that it could happen in "higher" forms like mammals and even humans, though it is so improbable that if it were to occur you would call it "miraculous." Thus, I end up making a statement of faith regarding the birth of Jesus Christ.

By virgin do you mean where the hymen is not broken or do you mean never having had any sexual contact (speaking of humans)?

I don't see how, sans the miraculous or medical intervention, a woman can possibly conceive and never had sex. What explanation is there otherwise?

MissBrattified · #46 02-23-2009, 09:55 PM

Pel, I thought I would answer you tonight, but I am TOO TIRED!!! The girls have basketball tournies this week, and after 5 hours at the gym, a VERY late meal, and laundry, I am too tired to even think about chimps, DNA and creationists. It'll be the same tomorrow, Thursday and possibly Friday/Sat, so don't expect anything better till next week, unless I just have a particularly brilliant moment.

I really didn't mean to make the point that evolutionists are atheists, but many of them are. It does seem that many people pursue evolutionary theories for the sake of contradicting Creationism, rather than just a candid search for truth. Quite a few evolutionists are godless, and if faced with clear evidence to refute their claims, would simply reject it because they don't accept any other possibilities.

That said, while I do believe some parts of evolution are clearly contradicted by scripture, that doesn't mean I believe Christians who subscribe to the gap theory, and other versions are anti-God, atheists, etc.

Now I've really taxed my brain, just saying that. Good night!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

mizpeh · #47 02-23-2009, 11:24 PM

Pel,

Are you a traducianist or a creationist in regards to the human soul?

Why does God's use of the same materials to make different species may mean we are related genetically because we are made of the same elements but not necessarily were derived from each other...

UrbanMissions · #48 02-24-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

If a beast killed a man then the blood of the dead would cry out for vengeance.

Exodus 21:12; Exodus 21:28-29; Psalm 9:12.

Cool , thanks . Very interesting indeed .

pelathais · #49 02-25-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

By virgin do you mean where the hymen is not broken or do you mean never having had any sexual contact (speaking of humans)?

The thing with the hymen is RCC doctrine used to maintain the idea of "perpetual virginity..." They would assert that Jesus passed through the membrane miraculously without rupturing it. I would not make such an assertion. I also accept the accounts of his natural brothers and sisters at face value.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't see how, sans the miraculous or medical intervention, a woman can possibly conceive and never had sex. What explanation is there otherwise?

When a haploid cell differentiates and a viable embryo is formed, you have parthenogenesis. At one time all organisms reproduced through non-sexual means. Many still do so today. "Sex" is one result of biological evolution and came along many thousands (or millions?) of generations into the game.

pelathais · #50 02-25-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Pel,

Are you a traducianist or a creationist in regards to the human soul?

Beats me. There is no material way to examine the soul, so all thoughts on those lines are conjecture.

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Why does God's use of the same materials to make different species may mean we are related genetically because we are made of the same elements but not necessarily were derived from each other...

The genes themselves bare a record of the passage of time. Not only do we share the proteins and sugars of DNA's composition with other organisms; we share the tell-tale markers of relatedness.

We have genes where viruses were added directly into the genome at some point in the past. In some cases, these obvious insertions of genetic material are share in common with other species, particularly the apes.