Gay apostolics?

[KWSS1976]

Bro you could come with me to chuch we would probley both get kicked out once they found out about your struggle but thats ok they don't matter anyway.. God is the only one that matters...

[Billy Boy]

Originally Posted by JEdwards

Well its certainly been a struggle. I've worked since I was 17. I'm a veteran 8 years in the USArmy. I've been a veteran in God's army for over 24 years. Preached for over 12 in the UPC. My family wrote me off and considered me dead in 2000. The UPC excommunicated me in 2003. I've been attending an independent apostolic church since, and they have been kind. You all are just wonderful and it's great to hear from all of you. I hope to be able to continue posting here about alot of great things. My interests certainly don't lie in one thing. I'm sure that I could contribute in so many other ways. Jeff.

Welcome Jeff, (we need MORE gay apostolics)!

[JEdwards]

I don't know. . .once I get up on that B3 organ, they might want to keep me.

[JEdwards]

Right now I'm so used to rejection that for someone to actually want to talk with me is foreign. But you know God and I have wonderful chats over a great cup of maxwell house each morning.

[KWSS1976]

I don't know the apostolic/upc church is pretty judgemental the only reason I attend one is because my wife was rasied UPC and she teaches sunday school

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If someone receives the revelation of who Jesus is, is water baptized in the name of Jesus, and is filled with the Holy Ghost...THEY ARE APOSTOLIC. Now, they may struggle with sin, they might even be backslidden and in sin...but they are still Apostolic. You don't cease being Apostolic while struggling with sin or even after you do sin. Even if you completely backslide, you're still Apostolic...albeit a BACKSLIDDEN APOSTOLIC.

So yes, I contend that there are Gay Apostolics. If God loved them enough to forgive their sin and give them the Holy Ghost, I'm man enough to acknowledge them as part of the body. And if they fall, they are fallen brothers and/or sisters.

I don't know why we're going around in circles trying to qualify who's "worthy" of wearing the label "Apostolic" like it's some kind of honorary title earned by our own merits or something.

Now, I don't condone sin. But I will be friends with, pray with, and encourage gay Christians and even *gasp* gay people. But when the rubber meets the road I let them know, I believe it's a sin. They need to take it to God and pray for strength to overcome just like I do my sins.

I just felt like I had to speak up here.

God bless.

I think most of us would approve of those sentiments.
God is patient and merciful, and we should be too.

I think the issue though, is that in the "Gay Pentecostal" movement, these folks embrace their sin, and teach that it's NOT sin.

THAT is a huge problem, and something we should never approve of, or compromise with.

[JEdwards]

Well if I never hear from you all again, it was great conversing with you. And I pray that the Lord bless you in all ways. Jeff.

[Billy Boy]

Originally Posted by JEdwards

Right now I'm so used to rejection that for someone to actually want to talk with me is foreign. But you know God and I have wonderful chats over a great cup of maxwell house each morning.

Sorry Jeff you just blew it! I coulda been friends until you said Maxwell House! Maybe if you convert to Starbucks you can still be my friend!

[JEdwards]

Maxwell is about $5 a can. Starbucks is just outside my budget bud. Jesus and me love max.

[ILG]

I think I am definately more compassionate about the subject than I used to be. I do think that people struggle with the issue genetically. I think some people might choose to engage in homosexual practices only because they are sinful but I don't think all people necessarily choose their orientation. We all have issues that we struggle with. It is my opinion that people struggling with orientation should not engage in relations with the same sex.