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03-09-2009, 08:10 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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ogle/give flirting glances AFAT
†[ שָׂקַר S8265 TWOT2283 GK8568] vb. Pi. ogle (Aramaic סְקַר look at ( T Jb 20:9; 28:7), סַקְרָנִית looking about, ogling; ܣܩܰܪ ( sqar) eye with envy or hatred (e.g. 1 S 18:9 S); cf. De Is );—Pt. fpl. מְשַׂקְּרוֹת עֵינַיִם Is 3:16 ogling of eyes (women of Jerusalem). Brown Driver Briggs
not used in Kal, i.q. Chald. סְקַר to look. Piel, prop. to make (the eyes) look around, as done by wanton and impudent women, Isaiah 3:16. LXX. ἐν νεύμασιν ὀφθαλμών. Others render it with painted eyes, comp. סְקַר to paint, which does not suit the context. Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament:
8568 שָׂקַר ( śā∙qǎr): v.; ≡ Str 8265; TWOT 2283—LN 24.1-24.51 (piel ptcp.) flirting glance, ogle with the eyes, i.e., to look at another person in a way that communicates a possible relationship, see also domain LN 33.476–33.489 ( Isa 3:16+), note: in context the look may communicate coyness or haughtiness Dictionary of Biblical Language Hebrew
קר: piel: pt. מְשַׂקְּרוֹת: w. ˓ênayim: toss seductive glances Is 3:16. A Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testament:
Don't mess with the Hebrew Dictionaries! lol
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So could eye makeup play into this? Like what's the purpose of eye makeup? To bring attention to the eyes, right? Why do they eyes have to be painted to look at people?
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03-09-2009, 08:57 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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So could eye makeup play into this? Like what's the purpose of eye makeup? To bring attention to the eyes, right? Why do they eyes have to be painted to look at people?
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All I know is that verse does not say eye makeup
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03-09-2009, 09:20 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
Good grief. I wear a little eyeliner, a soft eye shadow, and mascara. It makes my eyes look bigger and brighter. The same reason people whiten their teeth or curl their hair - to look better. There's nothing wrong with trying to look better! Some of us weren't born with all natural beauty!
I don't look like a hussy, or have the Jan Crouch/Tammy Faye look. There is moderation in all things. I just look like a normal woman, and I think God is pleased. I don't draw attention to myself.
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03-09-2009, 09:22 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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Originally Posted by Sherri
Good grief. I wear a little eyeliner, a soft eye shadow, and mascara. It makes my eyes look bigger and brighter. The same reason people whiten their teeth or curl their hair - to look better. There's nothing wrong with trying to look better! Some of us weren't born with all natural beauty!
I don't look like a hussy, or have the Jan Crouch/Tammy Faye look. There is moderation in all things. I just look like a normal woman, and I think God is pleased. I don't draw attention to myself.
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You're goin to heck girl!
Just kidding
BTW you probably have lot's of natural beauty.....come on! Don't be modest
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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03-09-2009, 09:52 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
now earrings I'm not comfertable with because that is self mutilation. But anyways back to makeup. I'm hoping someone against it will post there thoughts for consideration.
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03-09-2009, 09:54 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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now earrings I'm not comfertable with because that is self mutilation. But anyways back to makeup. I'm hoping someone against it will post there thoughts for consideration.
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My ears are not pierced; I just can't do it - it's a personal conviction. But I do wear earrings that clip on.
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03-09-2009, 10:06 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
I was talking with my wife tonight about this, out of all the laws God gave about specific things, he never ever mentions one time thngs like jewelry or makeup.
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03-09-2009, 10:13 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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I was talking with my wife tonight about this, out of all the laws God gave about specific things, he never ever mentions one time thngs like jewelry or makeup.
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I think that's a good point. God was very specific and detailed in the law, so I have trouble believing that we need to add anything to it. I think He covered all the stuff that was important to HIM!!!
And a lot of that detailed law is no longer necessary for the NT church! I am a Gentile Christian!
I've never worn heavy make-up, and if you'd asked me 5 years ago, I would have said NO ONE needs it! LOL!!! But as I get older, I see that maybe I DO need a little bit.  Oh, those dratted dark circles under my eyes in the morning!
I still talk to our girls about how they don't need to subscribe to a worldly ideal of beauty--they are fine just as they are. And I point out what looks ridiculous and immodest (because some looks draw undue attention to oneself). But at the same time--both of them are getting braces next year, so how is that all that different? It's purely a cosmetic procedure.
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03-09-2009, 10:17 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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I think that's a good point. God was very specific and detailed in the law, so I have trouble believing that we need to add anything to it. I think He covered all the stuff that was important to HIM!!!
And a lot of that detailed law is no longer necessary for the NT church! I am a Gentile!
I've never worn heavy make-up, and if you'd asked me 5 years ago, I would have said NO ONE needs it! LOL!!! But as I get older, I see that maybe I DO need a little bit.  Oh, those dratted dark circles under my eyes in the morning!
I still talk to our girls about how they don't need to subscribe to a worldly ideal of beauty--they are fine just as they are. And I point out what looks ridiculous and immodest (because some looks draw undue attention to oneself). But at the same time--both of them are getting braces next year, so how is that all that different? It's purely a cosmetic procedure.
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My daughter will soon be starting about 3200 duckies worth of work on her crossbite. I said it jokingly, but I said she doesn't need it teeth are to eat with. But we do it for looks alone.
I guess it's like preaching against doctors while wearing glasses.
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03-09-2009, 10:36 PM
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Re: Cosmetics???
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
I was talking with my wife tonight about this, out of all the laws God gave about specific things, he never ever mentions one time thngs like jewelry or makeup.
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There are a lot of things that God left out of the law that we've added in.... made our own laws.
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