Cosmetics??? - Page 4

rgcraig · #31 03-09-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Are tinkling feet like tingling feet?

I would suspect they are different.

I've seen some shoes that tinkle and make noise when walking - - I suppose those sinful ladies in the Bible wore rings and chains on their feet that caused tinkling as they walked!

Truthseeker · #32 03-09-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tbpew

"Truthstirrer" writes: [correction assumed and inserted by tbpew]

Based on the first set of replies, has your starter post resulted in what you had hoped for?

Can you amplify what kind of direct and specific input you would expect that is not packaged as a debate relating to outward standards?

I feel its important and timely to wait for MOW to post on this thread.

I meant not fight over it, my questions are a honest inquiry on what the word says on the subject. I mostly trying to show my intent was not to just argue another standard, but seek out the turth on the subject.

Truthseeker · #33 03-09-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

If people think this verse is "proof" that using cosmetics, or eye makeup in particuar, is a sin before God... then that's pretty flimsy "evidence".

explain why. It does appear painting eye is always associate with wicked women or those under judgement.

Truthseeker · #34 03-09-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Wanton eyes are a sin, but it has nothing to do with makeup.

I've known a few Apostolic women (with make-up bare faces) who had extremely wanton eyes.... and spirits.

Commentaries say it painting of eyes as well, why are they wrong.

TRFrance · #35 03-09-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

explain why. It does appear painting eye is always associate with wicked women or those under judgement.

Let me make my point with some basic questions here:

If a group of "wicked women" were described as wearing high-heeled shoes, should we consider high-heeled shoes to be sinful? (And if not, why not?)

...and why is it that you seem to assume that "eye painting" was done only by wicked women, and not righteous women, of Israel?

Truthseeker · #36 03-09-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Let me make my point with some basic questions here:

If a group "wicked women" were described as wearing high-heeled shoes, should we consider high-heeled shoes to be sinful? (And if not, why not?)

...and why is it that you seem to assume that "eye painting" was done only by wicked women, and not righteous women, of Israel?

Good questions, that's why I'm asking to get others input.

Now do you know women of Israel painted themselves?

It does appear when the bible speaks of painting the eyes it's always in a bad situation. Why even mention painting the eyes if it means nothing?

TRFrance · #37 03-09-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Good questions, that's why I'm asking to get others input.

Now do you know women of Israel painted themselves?

It does appear when the bible speaks of painting the eyes it's always in a bad situation. Why even mention painting the eyes if it means nothing?

Sorry, but that's really not much of an anwer, TS.

First of all, lets do this.

Instead of responding to my questions with a bunch of other questions...maybe you should try to offer up some answers to the questions I asked you... and then I'd be happy to reply back with some answers to these extra questions you're asking me.

Truthseeker · #38 03-09-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Sorry, but that's really not much of an anwer, TS.

First of all, lets do this.

Instead of responding to my questions with a bunch of other questions...maybe you should try to offer up some answers to the questions I asked you... and then I'd be happy to reply back with some answers to these extra questions you're asking me.

This is funny! You answered my questions with questions then then say don't answer questions with question.

I answered with "good questions" because I don't know if the ladies of Israel wore makeup or not. I can't say.

CC1 · #39 03-09-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I have black shadows from not getting enough sleep...does that count? ha...
I know you are serious...I am just joking with you.

Some women will do anything for that "look"!!!! (now you have probably started a trend with those same women who burn their hair off with their irons. They are now going to go without sleep to get those dark eyes!)

TRFrance · #40 03-09-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

This is funny! You answered my questions with questions then then say don't answer questions with question.

You asked me questions? Nah.
In post #33, you asked me to explain...
With my question to you about "high-heeled shoes", I answered you with a rhetorical question, to illustrate a point -- a point which you chose to ignore!

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I answered with "good questions" because I don't know if the ladies of Israel wore makeup or not. I can't say.

If you look into it, you'll see that makeup (of various types, not just eye makeup) was common in eastern/middle-eastern world since ancient times. There's nothing to indicate that it was just something done by "wicked women".

And even the very commentary you quoted above lets us know that women using eye-makeup was common in that part of the world in those days. (Again, no-one has ever shown evidence or proof that this was something only done by unrigheous women.)

""with eyes dressed with stibium." This fashion seems to have prevailed very generally among the Eastern people in ancient times; and they retain the very same to this day.
(from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1996, 2003 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)"