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Originally Posted by staysharp
So, my new Apostolic Magazine comes in the mail and here is this article on "how to pray people through". An interview with a hot shot praying people through evangelist. He says he has a 95% success rate...how does he know his success rate? Is there someone counting those who get it and those who don't and then do the math for him?
A few interesting quotes;
"People need to relax...they will not get the Holy Ghost while being uptight".
Question: If you pray with someone for a while and they seem to be getting nowhere, what do you do?
Answer: If people seem to struggle, they may not have fully repented, so I make sure they confess their sins and get it all out.
Now my question to you all: Where does it say you have to repent to receive the gift of tongues? And did not Jesus say..."how much more will your heavenly father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask"
How much repenting would one need to do to speak in tongues and get it all out? And is repentance a requisite to receiving the gifts? Are not the gifts given without repentance
Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
If his gifts are irrevocable, how can one ever repent enough to merit receiving? |
Staysharp,
While I do not know your doctrinal/theological foundation it would appear (from the red bolded portion) that you believe "praying someone through" or praying until they "speak in tongues" is simply for them to receive the "gift of tongues." If your supposition was correct then your point would indeed be valid, however, when
most oneness Pentecostals speak of praying someone through, we are speaking of receiving the spirit of Christ (Holy Ghost) which one would have to receive BEFORE he/she could be endowed with the gift of tongues or any other gift of the spirit.
In
Acts 2:38 the word used for gift is the Greek
dōrea which simply means gift as in a present. The Word used in
I Corinthians 12 for the gifts such as healing, tongues etc. is
charisma which has a markedly different definition. (Strong's defines it as:
grace or gifts denoting extraordinary powers, distinguishing certain Christians and enabling them to serve the church of Christ, the reception of which is due to the power of divine grace operating on their souls by the Holy Spirit)
Incidentally, I do not agree with most of the "professional" Holy Ghost "specialists."
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