Cosmetics???

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by tbpew

I appreciate you being so forthright and plain with this declaration concerning the source of how you make your decisions.

It is very helpful.

your welcome. BTW You probably do the same, just in case you didn't know.

[Praxeas]

The people in the church probably dressed no different than the cultural norm in many areas. Even Roman women, non jews and non christians...pagans in fact, wore veils

[coadie]

Are you afraid to discuss cosmetics?

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Good post.

Of course, prostitutes also wear panty-hose. So I guess we should preach against panty-hose too. Lord knows, we wouldn't want our good Pentecostal women to do do anything that prostitutes also do.

Why cant people see the fallacy of that kind of logic?

It's similar to the "hippies have beards, so Pentecostal men shouldnt have beards" irrationality that's common in some parts of Pentecost.

so you are unable to discuss cosmetics as a stand alone topic?

If you were for real, the position could be discussed and defended on it's own merits.

You are still struggling with the need to wear paint. I know why the world installs paint and I know women that leave the church start wearing paint. No one wants to let me know why they can't submit their need to be painted to the Lord.

[Truthseeker]

Coadie

Can you give scripture against cosmetics?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The people in the church probably dressed no different than the cultural norm in many areas. Even Roman women, non jews and non christians...pagans in fact, wore veils

You made a great point. Jacob didn't see his wifes face before the wedding. It was upon lifting her solid veil, that he saw it was leah. Lotta good a paint job is under a covering.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

On the flip side, men are pressured to look a certain way too. Like our conferences look like senate in session.

Where do we get clean shaved, colored shirts and suits from? Why have ties gotten longer over the years and why are the brothers wearing them?

As an article of clothing, a tie serves no particular purpose but to hang there around our neck and look good. It's an accesory, and a decorative accesory to boot.

Some of the same arguments that ultra-cons make against various ornaments could also be made against ties (at least theoretically anyway...since, in reality, not even a hardline ultracon would even bother with that argument)

Many of the hardliners seem to conveniently ignore that their argument cuts both ways. The same vague "New Testament principle" argument that they use against certain things they dont approve of, could also be used against them by someone more conservative , to attack something that they do approve of!

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

We can also ask, do con artists wear suits? Why? (to deceive you into thinking they are legit)

Do professional business women wear makeup? Why? Not every woman wearing makeup is doing it because they want to get paid for having sex.

Should women be conscious of wearing makeup like a hooker? I think so.

The only thing more predictable than the "prostitutes do it, so it's a sin" argument is the "pagans used to do it, so it's a sin".

That line of reasoning is old, tired, and weak.

So if certain pagans used to go on their rooftops at sunrise to pray to their god... now that makes it wrong for me to pray to my God on my rooftop at sunrise?? Makes no sense, but that's the kind of conclusion you get when you apply their reasoning consistently.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by tbpew

My interest was in how TS (as the thread starter) makes his decisions about what he wears. I am benefitted in knowing he looks to the world for his cues.

The world drives cars. The world makes newer and better cars. The church buys them. Is that a matter of getting our cues from the world?

Pentecostals did not invent dresses, ties or suits. They did not invent shoes, hair dos or don'ts. The world did.

The problem is a lot of people can't discern between "the world" and what worldliness means.

Who invented church buildings? The original church were in houses. It's not that people get their cues from the world. Unless you are making your own clothes with your own designs, we all get what we wear from the world. Some clothes or styles look nice like some cars look nice.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

The only thing more predictable than the "prostitutes do it, so it's a sin" argument is the "pagans used to do it, so it's a sin".

That line of reasoning is old, tired, and weak.

So if certain pagans used to go on their rooftops at sunrise to pray to their god... now that makes it wrong for me to pray to my God on my rooftop at sunrise?? Makes no sense, but that's the kind of conclusion you get when you apply their reasoning consistently.

It's called guilt by association.

Pagans worshiped on Sunday...Pagans worshiped on just about every day of the week

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by coadie

Are you afraid to discuss cosmetics?

so you are unable to discuss cosmetics as a stand alone topic?

If you were for real, the position could be discussed and defended on it's own merits.

You are still struggling with the need to wear paint. I know why the world installs paint and I know women that leave the church start wearing paint. No one wants to let me know why they can't submit their need to be painted to the Lord.

This is hilarious!

You are accusing someone else of not being able to defend their position and not staying on topic?????