Spontaneous Worship

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Blubayou

I watched the video and frankly it did not do much for me. ( Yes, I know I am an old fogey) I have a problem with the constant repetition in the new praise songs. Does the Bible talk about vain repetitions? There are songs of inspiration that can be sung in church that will encourage worship and praise. Songs that quote scripture is fine and I enjoy singing them. But I also enjoy songs that are written from writers experience and story. I do think there should be a blend praise songs.

There is a Psalm that every verse ends in "His mercies endure forever" or something like that. It's definitely repetition, but it's beautiful.

Personally, I love this type of music sometimes. I like many different kinds though. Miss B is right; there needs to be balance in all things. Sometimes our worship leader gets carried away in the Spirit and starts singing songs to the Lord that are spontaneous and usually rhyme. That's when I know that he's in the Spirit; it's like it's not even him - but God has taken over.

[Sept5SavedTeen]

It seems a bit like a performance, and not very open to congregational participation. We had a great service this morning, in my local assembly, and we sang a lot of "simple songs" as I call them, not songs with simple words, but songs with simple melodies, that anyone could follow along to. The modern songs, with their riffing and "sloppy singing", I have seen to often inflate the ego and flesh of the "worship leader" (a term I don't like much).

If I want to make "groanings that can't be uttered", well, then I won't make a sound because they can't be uttered... If I want to sing and repeat something over and over again, I'll do it alone, in my room or in my car or wherever... I know of people who think I'm dead because of the way I worship in the assembly hall, but I am not going to sing in tongues, and dance in front of everyone or shockamoo and disrupt service and whatnot- I do that at home (not that I'm saying dancing is a sin in the assembly hall, but I think we have to be careful to not be a distraction). I'm also not going to sing so loud as to be the center of attention. And I've go to ask this, does anyone else have a problem with songs that include "Oooo's" and "Ahhh's"? I DO! These are not words, these are oppurtunities to show how far up and down on the scale, and how many octaves they can sing thru, and I don't see it as being a humble display of worship.

And as a preacher, I also won't take 10 minutes to introduce myself, precede my message with a comedy gag, and then get into my message about what happened to me, and where I went and what I did...

There seems to be a lot of self-centeredness going around, and it's fairly more blatant amongst the charismatics, but may it not creep into the apostolic church!



-Bro. Alex

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

It seems a bit like a performance, and not very open to congregational participation. We had a great service this morning, in my local assembly, and we sang a lot of "simple songs" as I call them, not songs with simple words, but songs with simple melodies, that anyone could follow along to. The modern songs, with their riffing and "sloppy singing", I have seen to often inflate the ego and flesh of the "worship leader" (a term I don't like much).

If I want to make "groanings that can't be uttered", well, then I won't make a sound because they can't be uttered... If I want to sing and repeat something over and over again, I'll do it alone, in my room or in my car or wherever... I know of people who think I'm dead because of the way I worship in the assembly hall, but I am not going to sing in tongues, and dance in front of everyone or shockamoo and disrupt service and whatnot- I do that at home (not that I'm saying dancing is a sin in the assembly hall, but I think we have to be careful to not be a distraction). I'm also not going to sing so loud as to be the center of attention. And I've go to ask this, does anyone else have a problem with songs that include "Oooo's" and "Ahhh's"? I DO! These are not words, these are oppurtunities to show how far up and down on the scale, and how many octaves they can sing thru, and I don't see it as being a humble display of worship.

And as a preacher, I also won't take 10 minutes to introduce myself, precede my message with a comedy gag, and then get into my message about what happened to me, and where I went and what I did...

There seems to be a lot of self-centeredness going around, and it's fairly more blatant amongst the charismatics, but may it not creep into the apostolic church!



-Bro. Alex

Oh my.........I've seen this kind of stuff way more in traditional Pentecostal circles than in independent churches that you would refer to as Charismatic. How many Charismatic churches have you actually attended? And BTW, I am NOT Charismatic either.

[soldoutochrist]

Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

It seems a bit like a performance, and not very open to congregational participation. We had a great service this morning, in my local assembly, and we sang a lot of "simple songs" as I call them, not songs with simple words, but songs with simple melodies, that anyone could follow along to. The modern songs, with their riffing and "sloppy singing", I have seen to often inflate the ego and flesh of the "worship leader" (a term I don't like much).

If I want to make "groanings that can't be uttered", well, then I won't make a sound because they can't be uttered... If I want to sing and repeat something over and over again, I'll do it alone, in my room or in my car or wherever... I know of people who think I'm dead because of the way I worship in the assembly hall, but I am not going to sing in tongues, and dance in front of everyone or shockamoo and disrupt service and whatnot- I do that at home (not that I'm saying dancing is a sin in the assembly hall, but I think we have to be careful to not be a distraction). I'm also not going to sing so loud as to be the center of attention. And I've go to ask this, does anyone else have a problem with songs that include "Oooo's" and "Ahhh's"? I DO! These are not words, these are oppurtunities to show how far up and down on the scale, and how many octaves they can sing thru, and I don't see it as being a humble display of worship.

And as a preacher, I also won't take 10 minutes to introduce myself, precede my message with a comedy gag, and then get into my message about what happened to me, and where I went and what I did...

There seems to be a lot of self-centeredness going around, and it's fairly more blatant amongst the charismatics, but may it not creep into the apostolic church!



-Bro. Alex

Kim Walker sets the stage for an amazing evening.

That's the description on the video.
Which leads me to believe that it is almost supposed to be more of a performance, to as someone else said, set a worshipful atmosphere.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by soldoutochrist

Kim Walker sets the stage for an amazing evening.

That's the description on the video.
Which leads me to believe that it is almost supposed to be more of a performance, to as someone else said, set a worshipful atmosphere.

Come on........it's no different than "preacher worship" which goes on all the time. People get up to introduce a speaker and they go on and on magnifying and praising him before he speaks. To me, that's so much worse than this.

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Oh my.........I've seen this kind of stuff way more in traditional Pentecostal circles than in independent churches that you would refer to as Charismatic. How many Charismatic churches have you actually attended? And BTW, I am NOT Charismatic either.

I was Charimatic/trinitarian Pentecostal before becoming apostolic, for 2 years.

-Bro. Alex

[Sept5SavedTeen]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Come on........it's no different than "preacher worship" which goes on all the time. People get up to introduce a speaker and they go on and on magnifying and praising him before he speaks. To me, that's so much worse than this.

I agree! I'm saddened to say that I often see it among the "conservative apostolics."

-Bro. Alex

[soldoutochrist]

Originally Posted by Sherri

Come on........it's no different than "preacher worship" which goes on all the time. People get up to introduce a speaker and they go on and on magnifying and praising him before he speaks. To me, that's so much worse than this.

I didn't mean that in a negative manner-
as the person who posted the video, I'm still all for it.
I'm just saying that those who are treating this as a song service may be viewing it incorrectly,
because it seems more like an opportunity for the congregation to begin to worship than a singalong type of thing.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by soldoutochrist

I didn't mean that in a negative manner-
as the person who posted the video, I'm still all for it.
I'm just saying that those who are treating this as a song service may be viewing it incorrectly,
because it seems more like an opportunity for the congregation to begin to worship than a singalong type of thing.

Oh ok, gotcha. Sorry I jumped to conclusions here. I love this type of worship.

[Scott Hutchinson]

How is this for worship music ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDb702KE-t8