Unique Baptismal Service - Page 2

Rhoni · #11 03-16-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Trinitarians dont see Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is not THE NAME. It will be used by them to promote 3 separate and distinct persons each one being God in his own right. Thats the confusion that will come their way.

That is what you assume. Many people raised in "Oneness" have no clue how to defend the position, nor do they understand it. I once asked a perceived trinitarian if they thought Jesus was God. They said, "Yes, don't you?"

I think we think of ourselves more highly evolved, having more revelation than most, or being more special to God. Kind of like the definition of a "cult".

Blessings, Rhoni

Scott Hutchinson · #12 03-16-2009, 12:05 PM

If I baptize anybody it will be in the name of Jesus Christ,that is the only way I do it,and I have baptized people this way.

Jason B · #13 03-16-2009, 12:31 PM

amen, bro. scott

Margies3 · #14 03-16-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni

I think we assume too much. The baptizing them in the authority and name of Jesus Christ may be exactly how they interpret the scriptures to mean...I am not sure why we think we have a monoploy on what is considered "the truth". Corinthians tells us that...we all see through a glass darkly.

It astounds me how that when someone does it exactly right we can say, they did it accidently/innocently, or that they do it but don't understand it.

Amazing.

Rhoni

Well said, Rhoni.

Do we think that we have all of the truth? And that they have none of the truth? or do they have some of the truth? or is that only some of the time?

One thing I've never understood - and I know this opens a whole big can of worms - is this: While I believe in baptism in Jesus' name, I always have to wonder why it is that there are people out here who are even more sincerely seeking God and His guidance than many who were raised in the Apostolic church. If baptism in Jesus' name is so important, and if they are so sincere, why would God give the revelation of baptism to only a small group of people instead of to all who sincerely are seeking Him?

Don't get me wrong. I am not changing my baptism. I believe I was baptized the right way. But I don't believe that I am better than someone else who God has not given "the revelation" to. So why would He give it to you and to me, but not to them? And please don't give me that tired old song and dance about how He has tried and they wouldn't listen. I know too many people who, if God showed them, they would do it in a heartbeat.

Rhoni · #15 03-16-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Well said, Rhoni.

Do we think that we have all of the truth? And that they have none of the truth? or do they have some of the truth? or is that only some of the time?

One thing I've never understood - and I know this opens a whole big can of worms - is this: While I believe in baptism in Jesus' name, I always have to wonder why it is that there are people out here who are even more sincerely seeking God and His guidance than many who were raised in the Apostolic church. If baptism in Jesus' name is so important, and if they are so sincere, why would God give the revelation of baptism to only a small group of people instead of to all who sincerely are seeking Him?

Don't get me wrong. I am not changing my baptism. I believe I was baptized the right way. But I don't believe that I am better than someone else who God has not given "the revelation" to. So why would He give it to you and to me, but not to them? And please don't give me that tired old song and dance about how He has tried and they wouldn't listen. I know too many people who, if God showed them, they would do it in a heartbeat.

The Bible tells us, "They that hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled." Maybe we are asking the wrong questions? There are many people who are spirit-filld that have not been baptized by the formula we use. I believe the one I cited to be absolutely correct Biblically.

If we think we have a revelations that the rest of the spirit-filled believers do not have then in fact; Are we questioning God? Like the Pharisees who called Jesus to task for many things he said and did, like healing on the sabboth, or forgiving sins instead of healing physically, or eating foods offerred to idols, and even sitting down to dinner and fellowshipping with those considered to be the dreggs of society...

Maybe we look at things from our own understanding and not at things the way Christ sees them. One thing I know for sure...there are a lot more saved believers than Apostolics think, and many Apostolics who have sins in their lives unrepented of, attitudes of self-righteousness, and sins of unforgiveness, malice & isolating from others who don't believe like they do...

well we get where I am going. I hope Apostolics who believe they are the only ones...are absolutely wrong. If they are right...then there is less hope for themselves as well as the rest of the believers - because legalism limits the grace of God and makes it null and void...according to scripture.

Blessings, Rhoni

Jack Shephard · #16 03-16-2009, 03:21 PM

I am totally comfortable with this. I feel that it is actually very biblical.

Norman · #17 03-16-2009, 03:33 PM

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I now baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost by the name and authority of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I don't see a problem with that.

Theophil · #18 03-16-2009, 04:02 PM

I now baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost by the name and authority of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Originally Posted by Norman

I don't see a problem with that.

The only slight problem I see with it is that NO ONE WAS EVER BAPTIZED LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE.

It is unique, though.

freeatlast · #19 03-16-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by D. Wright

It seems their "formula" is fine. Can't see where anyone would be upset at all.

Elder Epley always commented on "formulas" like that. "Comprimisers" just tring to appease everybody. No it's not good enough, some will say.

If that baptism don't get you to heaven ..no baptism will in my opinion.

freeatlast · #20 03-16-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Theophil

I now baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost by the name and authority of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The only slight problem I see with it is that NO ONE WAS EVER BAPTIZED LIKE THAT IN THE BIBLE.

It is unique, though.

You will notice though in each recorded baptism in the bible the wording was different.