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03-16-2009, 07:07 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
This makes sense. The whole counsel of God should be taught.
Acts 20:26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God
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Yup. We all know how much time Jesus spent in his ministry dealing with outward dress codes!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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I actually have a pair of socks with that emblem on them (didn't realize it when I bought them) but since my pants leg covers it up I wear them.
I can't believe you don't like rabbits!!!! 
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Well aren't you just a raging porn supporter!
I'm tellin' Sister Cee Cee One.
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03-16-2009, 07:09 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Si Si Juan,
I live "the old-time way" for the most part.
I do so because I think boundaries are needed.
We go over the cliff, however, when we mandate our own personal boundaries on everybody in the natural born world.
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Here is my test to see if you really live the "old time way";
1. Do you own any shirts in a color other than white?
2. Do you own any short sleeve shirts?
3. Do you not shave when you are at deer camp or on a multiple day fishing trip?
If you have answered yes to any of these questions you are NOT living the "old time way"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:10 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Well aren't you just a raging porn supporter!
I'm tellin' Sister Cee Cee One.
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The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:16 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by CC1
Here is my test to see if you really live the "old time way";
1. Do you own any shirts in a color other than white? Yes.
2. Do you own any short sleeve shirts? Many
3. Do you not shave when you are at deer camp or on a multiple day fishing trip? I only shave on Wednesdays and Sunday morning.
If you have answered yes to any of these questions you are NOT living the "old time way"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Oh sweet mamie, I'm as lost as a man with no TomTom.
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03-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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Woah, that's some pretty evil socks.
Have you considered it may just be the smell?
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03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
There's the rub.
Plus, I think two ladies could be wearing the exact same style of clothing, but with different spirits. In some cases, the clothing is not the issue, it's the attitude of the wearer. Otherwise, there are some objects that are definitely contrary to a spirit of holiness.
What do you think?
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I agree with you, my friend.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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03-16-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by CC1
The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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It's just the opposite. The dryer gremlin is of the debbil and wants you to keep those socks so you can unknowingly continue to promote an ungodly lascivious lifestyle every time you cross your legs.
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently.  Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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03-16-2009, 07:44 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
There ya go.
Again, if my salvation depends upon adherence to a dress code, you have an obligation to tell me so.
Don't wait a few months.
What if I die before you tell me I need to shave to be saved?
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I don't see shaving in the Bible!
Come on Ed, you are better than that, you are either trying to stir the pot, or you are grossly ignorant of scripture.
The Bible tells us in many places in the NT that a Christian grows, matures, into the fullness of the stature of Christ.
I see my kids acti8ng a certain way because they are immature, if they act that way when they grow up, I am going to wonder what is wrong.
Same in the Kingdom.
You need a better argument!
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03-16-2009, 07:51 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Ron
I don't see shaving in the Bible!
Come on Ed, you are better than that, you are either trying to stir the pot, or you are grossly ignorant of scripture.
The Bible tells us in many places in the NT that a Christian grows, matures, into the fullness of the stature of Christ.
I see my kids acti8ng a certain way because they are immature, if they act that way when they grow up, I am going to wonder what is wrong.
Same in the Kingdom.
You need a better argument! 
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Ron, I can assure you that there are those that would place a soul in hell for a lot of things that are not in the bible.
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