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Originally Posted by Praxeas
I think I already stated that in this thread let alone many times in others that the Son has two natures, Deity and Humanity but that the Divine attributed were latent IN him as per the Kenosis
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wow. Can you imagine if repeating ourselves ever became a GIVEN on online discussion boards.
Prax, I am consistently willing to give various philosophers their own quiet place to imagine unique "work arounds" to make their preferred belief system work. I count your 'LATENT' explanation in this general category. I submit the following scriptural settings to offer some perspective to highlight JUST HOW LATENT the FULLY God nature must be, when considered with the testimony of God's only begotten Son.
Prax writes:
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Latent...that's a good one....particularly for an entity that is presented as being FULLY GOD. (General note: Latent means HIDDEN).
So LATENT that this one (the Son of God) speaking to Mary at his empty tomb says:
"Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." [John
So LATENT that John records the words of this one speaking from his glorified state and saying:[john20:17]
"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name." [
Rev 3:12]
So LATENT was this devine attribute/nature that knowledge was limited AND the vessel could be tempted EVEN though God can not be tempted.
""But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." [
Mk 13:32]
AND
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. [
Heb 4:15]
So LATENT was the devine nature (the FULLY GOD attribute), that the Son thought less of his own SON manifestation by declaring himself to be less than his Father (manifestation?).
"Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." [
John 14:12]
To my FULLY God, FULLY Man folks, dual nature, one singular entity sponsoring two concurrent manifestations called FATHER and SON:
If the Son's human self is so overt, and the divine self so LATENT, based upon the perspective of the Son revealed by his own testimony, why is it so displeasing to your theology to understand that God really did father a Son born of a woman; God's word became flesh.