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Old 03-26-2009, 09:35 AM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

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And you accuse me of not answering Bro. Anderson’s Q&A session properly?? Well, so much for judging without preference.
Did I say I had NO preference??????????????????

Anyone who has followed any of these forums knows that I am NOT a preterist. Partial or Full.

I was discussing the format NOT the subject.
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Old 03-26-2009, 09:50 AM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

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Did I say I had NO preference??????????????????

Anyone who has followed any of these forums knows that I am NOT a preterist. Partial or Full.

I was discussing the format NOT the subject.
Then discuss how Bro. Anderson never did show what the apostles taught. THAT was the problem from the beginning. But, see, this is where the judging without preference comes in; since he is YOUR man, you have to protect him and attack me. It is plain that he did NOT prove what the apostles taught. All you have to do is read his words to see that. I am not the only one who has said this. I asked him to PLEASE get on the agreed subject in my responses. I said my usage of Daniel 9:24 was in effort to accomplish that. So, please, quit trying to find a reason why I made him quit. He did that all by himself.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:01 AM
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Then discuss how Bro. Anderson never did show what the apostles taught. THAT was the problem from the beginning. But, see, this is where the judging without preference comes in; since he is YOUR man, you have to protect him and attack me. It is plain that he did NOT prove what the apostles taught. All you have to do is read his words to see that. I am not the only one who has said this. I asked him to PLEASE get on the agreed subject in my responses. I said my usage of Daniel 9:24 was in effort to accomplish that. So, please, quit trying to find a reason why I made him quit. He did that all by himself.
Forgive me for asking, I am not real familiar with the landscape here. I am just wanting to read a real debate. What do you mean with the statement that Anderson is Epley's man? Did he come out of that church or what?
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:05 AM
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Then discuss how Bro. Anderson never did show what the apostles taught. THAT was the problem from the beginning. But, see, this is where the judging without preference comes in; since he is YOUR man, you have to protect him and attack me. It is plain that he did NOT prove what the apostles taught. All you have to do is read his words to see that. I am not the only one who has said this. I asked him to PLEASE get on the agreed subject in my responses. I said my usage of Daniel 9:24 was in effort to accomplish that. So, please, quit trying to find a reason why I made him quit. He did that all by himself.
I am NOT defending him I am dealing with your lack of following the affirmative speech and introduced NEW material NOT dealt with in the affirmative speech. YOU was suppose to be in the rebuttal which evidently you cannot comprehend. I did advise him against the debate for this reason I told him you would NOT follow his affirmative and you made me a true prophet.
ThE ONE question he did ask you that you did NOT answer or touch top-side-or bottom of it concerning the duration of the Lord's supper. And since you either COULD not or WOULD not answer the question you introduced Dan.9:24 that has zero to do with his affirmative speech.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:07 AM
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Forgive me for asking, I am not real familiar with the landscape here. I am just wanting to read a real debate. What do you mean with the statement that Anderson is Epley's man? Did he come out of that church or what?
I am a futurist and Elder Andersen is a futurist I have no idea what he teaches concerning the endtime with the except he does believe Jesus is coming again. Another strawman by Elder Burk the leader.
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:38 AM
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Forgive me for asking, I am not real familiar with the landscape here. I am just wanting to read a real debate. What do you mean with the statement that Anderson is Epley's man? Did he come out of that church or what?
Bro. Epley has a habit of agreeing with pretty much anyone who disagrees with AFP. I meant in lighthearted to him.

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I am a futurist and Elder Andersen is a futurist I have no idea what he teaches concerning the endtime with the except he does believe Jesus is coming again. Another strawman by Elder Burk the leader.

See what I mean?
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:41 AM
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Bro. Epley has a habit of agreeing with pretty much anyone who disagrees with AFP. I meant in lighthearted to him.




See what I mean?
I do disagree with Preterists that is NO secret however I do not know what veiw Elder Andersen believes? If he stated it I missed it.
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Old 03-26-2009, 11:10 AM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

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Did I say I had NO preference??????????????????

Anyone who has followed any of these forums knows that I am NOT a preterist. Partial or Full.

I was discussing the format NOT the subject.
I probably aught not to get involved, but... it's snowy and cold here and I am bored..

Bro Epley, with all due respect... you are at least a partial preterist by your own admission as you believe that the prophecy in Matt 24, re: destruction of Jerusalem is past.
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Old 03-26-2009, 12:26 PM
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I probably aught not to get involved, but... it's snowy and cold here and I am bored..

Bro Epley, with all due respect... you are at least a partial preterist by your own admission as you believe that the prophecy in Matt 24, re: destruction of Jerusalem is past.
No I am a dispensationalist.
Jesus was asked 3 questions in Mt. 24 he answered them all.
1. When shall these things be? The destruction of the temple
2. The sign of thy coming
3. the end of the world.
One is past two are future. Most preterist BOTH Partial & Full believe ALL of Mt. 24 was fulfilled in 70 AD along with every prophecy thus God has had NOTHING to say about the last 1900 years of man's history NOR the future.
All prophecy is a little obscure footnote in a history book which the majority of the populace has never heard of.
Futurist teach what Jesus & Apostles taught that Jesus truly is comng again to catch His church away, resurrect the dead, judge the wicked.
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13

Okay, this question is for the preterists: Do you guys believe in the rapture of the church?
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