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Old 03-27-2009, 04:40 PM
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Re: Gentle anti-abortion apologetics

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I know of an expectant mother who had a cancer and faced the choice between abortion or treatment...because the treatment would most likely kill or at best severely harm the unborn child...but neglecting treatment would certainly be her death sentence.

That choice should be left in her hands.
My neighbor had brain cancer. she decided to not kill the child by taking radiation and chemo. she did not know if treatment would cure her. she eventually died and her boy is fantastic. I have known the father for over 30 years. If you have had a christian medical ethics classses, these dilemmas are not as big as the avbortion industry tries to make them.

People that try to justify abortion are always trying to bring up trick scenarios.

I see that is what you are doing.

Remember Roe Wade in the superem court was a woman that claimed to be raped.
Jane Roe was actually Norma CcCorvey and she lied in court and was lied to.

She did NOT get an abortion, she did put the child for adoption and she had not been raped as she told the court.

Just so you know, the supreme court case was built on lies under oath.

Since I am a Christian, I place things in God's hands.

Can a pro abortion person like yourself that claims it is pro choice give an example where God required a death of a child? Just one.

Remember they also say it is not a child. God says it is a child.

21And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.

22And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.

Obama, Planned parenthood etc say it is not a child.

The choice is in our hands regarding killing the elderly also.
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Old 03-27-2009, 04:59 PM
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Re: Gentle anti-abortion apologetics

Rape is not an excuse for murder either.What happens to the mother is not the childs fault,and God takes something that is evil and makes something good.Adoption is the best choice.Adoption is the best choice.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:03 PM
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Rape is not an excuse for murder either.What happens to the mother is not the childs fault,and God takes something that is evil and makes something good.Adoption is the best choice.Adoption is the best choice.
These discussions get out of hand rapidly. If some one supports abortion, they will spend a lot of time creating hypothetical scenarios. Actually there is a ministry of a woman that was raped and kept the child. God did a great healing. Her husband also flipped a switch and loved the child.

My next question is if God temps people. Will God comeout and tempt the parents to kill the baby? Is there scripture that God has or will?
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:11 PM
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Re: Gentle anti-abortion apologetics

"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race
(Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

Margaret Sanger is the racist founder of Planned Parenthood.
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These discussions get out of hand rapidly. If some one supports abortion, they will spend a lot of time creating hypothetical scenarios. Actually there is a ministry of a woman that was raped and kept the child. God did a great healing. Her husband also flipped a switch and loved the child.

My next question is if God temps people. Will God comeout and tempt the parents to kill the baby? Is there scripture that God has or will?
i dont believe God temps people.I believe people have free will to do good or evil towards thier fellow man and its God who comes in and sets things right when man does evil to man because good always triumphs over evil.
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Old 03-27-2009, 05:46 PM
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i dont believe God temps people.I believe people have free will to do good or evil towards thier fellow man and its God who comes in and sets things right when man does evil to man because good always triumphs over evil.
From a non Christian view, abortion is about liberty. The mom wants to rank her liberty higher than the childs life. It started with a demand for sexual liberty. 1/2 the moms deny the new born child the right to have their own daddy in the home and raise them with their mom or his wife.
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From a non Christian view, abortion is about liberty. The mom wants to rank her liberty higher than the childs life. It started with a demand for sexual liberty. 1/2 the moms deny the new born child the right to have their own daddy in the home and raise them with their mom or his wife.
I agree with you on that the divorce rate has sky rocketed in this day and age,and to top it off most are living together and not married.Maybe some of these abortions could be stopped if the moms gave the babies to the dads.I do know that thier are baren women out thier who have a lot of bitterness over some one who casualy gets an abortion when ever they feel like it.
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I agree with you on that the divorce rate has sky rocketed in this day and age,and to top it off most are living together and not married.Maybe some of these abortions could be stopped if the moms gave the babies to the dads.I do know that thier are baren women out thier who have a lot of bitterness over some one who casualy gets an abortion when ever they feel like it.
I am not saying divorce. The mom never got married and has a child. I have a mom in home bible study that has 3 kids, has never married and they all have different fathers.

The pro choice people are almost 100% merely pro abortion. They claim it is legal to make laws to prevent moms from locking their kids in a car and go into stores. They claim it is ok to make laws to not sell kids or sell them into child porn or prostitution. It is ok to have laws against drugs in the home even tho they do it any way. The only dangerous decision they let the mom make is one that is dangerous and deadly for the child. Most moms leave kids in cars and they don't die every time.
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