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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Brother, you are a riot. I asked for a YES or a NO. Oh well, at least you make things interesting.
Okay, let me make this plain, as others already have posted on this thread.
A debate on 3 chapters is to broad.
I want to debate the main point of preterism. Is the coming of Christ past or future. If you are so hung up on Matthew 24. We can let Matthew 24:27-31 be our foundational scripture and go from there. Why can you not commit to this? |
how much plainer can I put it?
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03-27-2009, 10:43 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Tying these guys down to an affrimative proposition is like trying to drive a nail in jello.
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Elder with all due respect, walk softly concerning the above.
I have watched you for years go back and forth with myself and others on this topic and you disappeared everytime.
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Ain't going to happen.
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Happens all the time Brother Epley, we have thousands of posts in the Eschatology threads, yet I don't see any of yours? Since you have so much knowledge of what you believe why aren't you down their defending your positon? In Just Preachers it wasn't you who carried the mail, but you wanted to enlist Micheal Blume? Mike Blume who had said that Ultra Conservatives were the spiirit off anti-christ? If what we believe is so false why can't you ever refute it?
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They ain't going to answer direct questions
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Elder Epley you have never answered the question I asked you about your belief that souls are asleep before God in heaven, and not in their graves or awake in heaven. That was about 6 years ago. I have asked you numerous times after that , and just let it go. Where are the dead now Brother Epley?
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and they are not going to follow a debate format forget.
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Elder Epley, if what we believe is so wrong tthen where are all the heros to defend the faith? Elder Burk was posting, Brother James Anderson BAILED.
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They are not dumb the questions hem them up. They want to post all their prewritten stuffand ignore any affirmative argument.
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Prewritten stuff? Yet you won't rebuke Brother James Anderson for posting miles of Trinitarian commentaries.
You know Elder your not dumb, you know this teaching is sweeping through Pentecost and it will do it without my help Brother Blume's help or Brother Burk's help. You can't stop it. You have been watching me post on everything from Dan to Beersheba, and I use nothing but chapter and verse, you have never disrespected my postings when they are on issues you agree with. Yet, you know you cannot refute what we believe. You know it.
You were jumping up and down behind your boy, Anderson, and he dropped the watermelon, and now you come here to disrespect us.
With respect
In JESUS NAME
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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how much plainer can I put it?
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Jason, you a slicker than snot on a door knob.
You will affirm Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 is future and I will affirm that it is past.
YES OR NO.
Signed Evangelist Benincasa
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
Brother, I cannot be more specific than this:
MATT 24:27-31
Is he coming back again or not? It's not complicated.
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Jason, you a slicker than snot on a door knob.
You will affirm Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 is future and I will affirm that it is past.
YES OR NO.
Signed Evengelist Benincasa
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Playground bullies are often insecure in their manhood, and must bluster to cover their inadequacies.
Jason is correct, three entire chapters is much too broad for a debate on a forum such as this.
Since he is willing to address a portion, notably Matthew 24:27-31, and that is within the confines you wish to debate, have at it.
It is much easier to call people "slicker than snot on a dorrknob" however.
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03-27-2009, 11:19 PM
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Brother, I cannot be more specific than this:
MATT 24:27-31
Is he coming back again or not? It's not complicated.
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No it is not complicated, that is why you should just do the simple thing and agree to what I have tried to have you do in a forum where 600 words was not a problem. Where you and I could of presented our cases with no limits.
I made up a thread with YOUR name on it to answer my questions. It was I who originally challenged you, and you still refuse? Brother Jason, I am intrigued now to know why this is such a hard pill to swallow. You are going kicking and screaming. If you understand your eschatology so well, then you should have no problem with my requests.
You will affirm that Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 are yet future, and I will affirm that they are past.
YES or NO?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Playground bullies are often insecure in their manhood, and must bluster to cover their inadequacies.
Jason is correct, three entire chapters is much too broad for a debate on a forum such as this.
Since he is willing to address a portion, notably Matthew 24:27-31, and that is within the confines you wish to debate, have at it.
It is much easier to call people "slicker than snot on a dorrknob" however. |
Chuck it is not to broad an issue, no bullying here Chuck, just trying to get Brother Jason to fill my request. How about you Chuck would you like to come to the eschatology forum and go to the Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13 thread and show us how it is future?
You always have had a problem with me, and never failed to take your punch.
You have issues and I assure you I had nothing to do with them. You have a personal problem then I suggest you deal with it other ways. If you have a doctrinal problem then go to the thread and post.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=23087
In JESUS NAME
Brother Benincasa
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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bro. I have not condemned you nor your family. However, I think your doctrine is to weak to deal with the crux of the issue. Elder Epley nailed it when he said trying to pin you guys down is like drying to drive a nail in jell-o.
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Yet, to have such a strong opinion you had continually refused to answer my questions in the eschatology forum on Matthew 24, Luke 21, and Mark 13.
You want to know what is insane about this? The Godhead is as broad a topic (as well as Creation Science) as Matthew 24:1-34, Luke 21:1-12,20-28, Mark 13:1-30. Now you wouldn't see anyone screaming foul to debate the Godhead, or even go against an Atheist in debate, but yet it is like pulling teeth to get one Brother to comply to this wether in debate with 600 word limit or in open forum with no limit.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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Re: Jason DEBATE MATTHEW 24 Luke21 Mark 13
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Hey Benincasa!!! Yo!
What if a person believes it's BOTH? Can we have it out?
I'm just saying, it's NOT a "Yes" or "No" question. If Jason thinks it is then he's as wrong as you!
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