Does God's Will change?

[Jack Shephard]

I would say that most of us on this board would scoff at the idea that God's Will can change or that it does change. I wanted to know what you all though? I think that God's Will is that we live and be in health, prosper and do it as our soul prospers. Now if a person marries someone and they are both in church and on fire for God, but along the way something happens and they divorce was that God's Will? How about if one of those persons remarries and goes on to do GREAT thing for the Kingdom of God is that God's will? If so then was it is God's Will for the first relationship to occur?

I am wondering this not for any personal reason at all, but out of curiosity. I think believe that God's Will is NOT like a spot somewhere out in a field or something. I believe it is more like a place spiritually. I believe people can be in the Will of God at one moment and not the next. I believe that we as free moral agent can and do go in and out of the Will of God. What say ye?

[ReformedDave]

If God knows something will happen, can it not?!

[KWSS1976]

I don't know about divorce I think when the bible says the beliver should not be yolked together with the unbeliver that is true I don't see things as my wife does as she was raised UPC her whole life and I was raised baptist believe me we have had our share of arguments but we both believe in Jesus and I think thats all that matters all the other is petty stuff in my opinion but I do not think gods will changes I think alot of times people do not go to god when they should I think he does test us just to see what we are made of sometimes but I do not think his will changes..

[shawndell]

I believe Gods will is that all should come unto him and be saved.I believe that we live in a fallen corupt world and even though we are saved we need forgiveness every day because we are at war with the corrupt.Some battles we win and some we lose but through Jesus we will win the war!!What can wash away my sins nothing but the blood of Jesus!That blood is more powerful than the worst sin.When we say that I cant be saved because of a certain sin then we are insutling the Lord.Its alll in the blood!!!Just get back up and fight on!!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I would say that most of us on this board would scoff at the idea that God's Will can change or that it does change. I wanted to know what you all though? I think that God's Will is that we live and be in health, prosper and do it as our soul prospers. Now if a person marries someone and they are both in church and on fire for God, but along the way something happens and they divorce was that God's Will? How about if one of those persons remarries and goes on to do GREAT thing for the Kingdom of God is that God's will? If so then was it is God's Will for the first relationship to occur?

I am wondering this not for any personal reason at all, but out of curiosity. I think believe that God's Will is NOT like a spot somewhere out in a field or something. I believe it is more like a place spiritually. I believe people can be in the Will of God at one moment and not the next. I believe that we as free moral agent can and do go in and out of the Will of God. What say ye?

If we have submitted ourselves to God and are walking after the Spirit and not after the flesh then we are never out of the will of God.

"...it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." Jeremiah 10:23

"A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps." Proverbs 16:9

We do have a free choice to do anything our heart desires. Totally different story when we desire to follow the direction and plan of God for our lives.

If we commit adultery - we are walking in the flesh. That, of course, is not the will of God for our lives.

Saul had a place in the Kingdom, he chose his own way - he lost out and lost his very life.

[Jack Shephard]

Pressing-On, do you really think that if we follow after the spirit then we are never out of God's Will? I don't think so becasue it is not possible to be in the spirit all the time. Case in point/example is at times when ministers or their wives rebuke someone that they think is doing wrong when in fact they are not doing wrong.

[n david]

I do believe if a person has a relationship with God, is walking after the Spirit, then he will know and be able to follow the will of God.

If he knows the will of God, and chooses not to follow, then he's walking after the flesh and not in the will of God.

As for the question about divorce: it would be difficult for me to believe that an individual could remain in God's will from now thru a divorce without infidelity of the spouse being a factor. Divorce for divorces' sake is never the will of God, and God could not honor it. Marriage is a life-lasting covenant between God, the husband and the wife.

If the marriage isn't happy and healthy, pray, seek Godly marriage counseling and do all you can to remain married and bonded with your spouse. An exception being the infidelity of the other spouse, however.

It's very unfortunate that with today society, especially in the ministry, divorce has become somewhat commonplace and accepted.

[Jack Shephard]

I agree, let it be known that I was not talking about my marriage in any such way.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Pressing-On, do you really think that if we follow after the spirit then we are never out of God's Will? I don't think so becasue it is not possible to be in the spirit all the time. Case in point/example is at times when ministers or their wives rebuke someone that they think is doing wrong when in fact they are not doing wrong.

I see what you are saying - our human allowances. I view God's will as the grander scheme of things for my life - where does he want me to serve him and in what capacity? From my experience, I don't pursue a position in the kingdom unless He has opened a door for me. When He does that, He opens it wide.

So, on little things where human discretion fails - I don't even consider that going outside of the will of God. It's just making a simple mistake from being tired, hurt, confused, etc. Sometimes life hits us from the blindside and we reel - when the dust settles, we are stronger never having left His will - just spending some time in the refining pot.

I listened to a message, can't remember the title, but the gist was that after serving Him for, say, 20 years, something rears its head in your life. A dross he wants to bring to the top for further refining. Sometimes we get discouraged by that and wonder what happened, but God knows that 10 or so years back you couldn't have looked at that and corrected it in your life.

There is so much involved in our refining process. I don't think we can label everything. We don't know each heart, each journey that must be made along the way.

I think our greatest fault is not having the patience or willingness to go to God and ask Him what to do with each person in each circumstance. We want to broadbrush every circumstance from experience. And, yes, by experience some things do pan out the same, but sometimes they don't. I want to be careful in my judgment of someone's life in those cases. We are very fragile people.

Now, willingly disobeying scripture when we know we are wrong - adultery - that would be totally out of the will of God. Knowingly is the key, IMO.