Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport - Page 16

Aquila · #**151** 04-02-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I will not waste my gray matter on responding to the rest of the post but I will quote one of the founding father on the summation you made above.

Benjamin Franklin knew what he was talking about when he said "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. "

Ben Franklin couldn't have imagined 9/11 in his most horrible nightmare. I'm beginning to wonder who's side you're on there Digger.

Digging4Truth · #**152** 04-02-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Ok D4T, I think I know where you are coming from ok, it seems like there is definitely a reason to be concerned that we are losing our fundamental freedoms here-

But since I have traveled over seas, I can see that there maybe some advantages to losing some of our freedoms, ...

That's where I stopped reading.

I repeat the words of the great patriot Benjamin Franklin.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"

Pressing-On · #**153** 04-02-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Piques your curiosity? Maybe.

Makes you wonder? Probably.

My point exactly. The TSA was curious as to where he had been, where he was going and why he had a box of money in his luggage.

Digging4Truth · #**154** 04-02-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Ben Franklin couldn't have imagined 9/11 in his most horrible nightmare. I'm beginning to wonder who's side you're on there Digger.

Yeah... and with your line of thinking you will soon begin to feel that I am "suspect" and then it will be okay that they come and search my home and maybe take away my kids because I say "scary and suspect" things.

You line of thinking goes bad places....dark, awful and bad places.

Digging4Truth · #**155** 04-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

My point exactly. The TSA was curious as to where he had been, where he was going and why he had a box of money in his luggage.

Curiosity is not a legal standing.

Pressing-On · #**156** 04-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

Bro, this is real simple. if that were the case, they take the guy, the run a background and they let the guy go.

nothing wrong with that if the scenario you are suggesting were the case.

what we know is that was not the case. TSA simply held him because he had some money on him that was out of line with what others generally had on hand.

IMO, they held him because he was being obstinate and vague.

MissBrattified · #**157** 04-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie

This made recent news. I think you also see that they may have had a set up to see if when this memo was rejected that it really would be rejected.

It is interesting and quite a coincidence that they detained a Ron Paul supporter, isn't it?

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this memo leaked and was an embarrassment. Well it seems it was tested and this case show they may act like they ignore it but are profiling anyhow.

Profiling on a whole new level, too. Understandable, since we all know it was really right-wing, conservative political groups who caused 9-11, and they are the REAL terrorists.

MissBrattified · #**158** 04-02-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

IMO, they held him because he was being obstinate and vague.

PO, what right did they have to pull him out of the line in the first place? That is the real problem here.

Pressing-On · #**159** 04-02-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Curiosity is not a legal standing.

Perhaps, but as I said - we are majorly an immoral nation and have brought this on ourselves. We are making and enforcing laws to govern our morality and it is never going to work.

Aquila · #**160** 04-02-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I don't think it is fair to call it playing games when someone exercises a freedom, and refuses to give in to Gestapo tactics. It would have been easier for everyone if he had just offered a simple explanation, BUT I understand why he didn't, and the officers who detained him were wrong for not advising him of his legal rights, or for finding someone who could do so in a timely fashion.

I agree with Ferd; there is no reason to be fearful of cash on an airplane. For that matter, if Airport Security is now going to be concerned with keeping criminals off airplanes, past, present, small time or not, they are going to lose a lot of business.

Their concern should be related to the safety of those on the airplane. Embezzlers shouldn't raise a red flag in the terrorist alert system.

Airport police and security encompasses more than terrorism. They are a division of law enforcement. They function as police officers, fighting terror is just one of many things they do.

Let's say two dozen men working for a domestic terror cell were trying to get through that airport, each carrying about $5,000 in cash after closing an arms deal. How do you suspect we catch them? What if there was a tip that this may be taking place? And what if this little creep decided to play this game on the wrong night? My point is that there's far more going on behind the scenes than any of you are considering.