Harrassed & Detained For Carrying Cash @ Airport

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Paranoia. You see...this guy is only looking for attention he knows what he was doing. You have no idea how much stress is on airport security to protect passengers. This guy's a jerk. Sorry, I've seen the job that airport security has to do, I'm on their side bro. It's a shame it isn't a crime to harass airport security.

Your are mentally prepared for your new job.

You'll fit in just fine.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Goadie, I didn't commit a "crime". I simply had a pocket knife on me when going for my local background checks and was asked to take it out to my car because they couldn't permit me to carry into the police department administration area. It wasn't a crime, no law was broken. It's just a safety policy.


This is getting stupid Coadie. Get real.



Coadie, my new position will not be as an agent on the checkpoints. I'm administrative. I'll be in a back office where contractors and employees turn in applications for security access to SIDA (Security Identification Display Areas) such as baggage, freight, storage, the gates, and the tarmac. I give them an application and I take their fingerprints. I then perform a background check against the FBI and TSA databases (I believe TSA interfaces with a number of national security and law enforcement databases, 9, if my memory serves me right). If they are not disqualified by one or more of the 28 criteria listed as disqualifying by TSA I issue them access and give them a security badge. If they meet any of those criteria I deny them access. If they are illegal, have a warrant for their arrest, or are listed as terrorists I have to report them and give the information they gave me to the proper authorities. I also have to run monthly reports to the local Department of Aviation and TSA. Not to mention I'll be tasked with running security audits to know where contractors and employees are in the airport to track accessed areas and behavior. I'll be working from my office directly under the chief of airport police. So, I'll not be a rental cop or even a checkpoint agent. My military experience and clearances helped me out.

What do you do for a living Coadie?

So this is unskilled labor job? My secretary does this for contractors we have on site. .

How did they bust you and your pocket knife? a metal detector? Admitted law breaker.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The guy was carrying an unusual amount of cash which opened him up for questions.

What makes it unusual? Maybe it is only unusual to those who draw a salary equal to a TSA agent.

Originally Posted by Aquila

It was his failure to cooperate that got him into this mess. If it were you or me, odds are we would have cooperated and not been detained.

He isn't in a mess. They exceeded their authority. He called their bluff. They let him go. He didn't even miss his flight.

The "mess" is the trouble the over zealous agents are going to be in if he pursues legal channels.

He was right and they were left with egg on their face.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Sorry bro...if I were airport security I'd be wondering, "Why in God's name isn't this guy cooperating? What's he hiding? Why is he not answering simple questions that would get him on his way? Is he a threat to me? Is he a threat to passengers? Is he a criminal?" And yes...I'd detain him. This guy was essentially harassing airport security and insighting a response from them. Put yourself in the shoes of airport security. This guy had an agenda, his a conspiratorial activist. I'm thinking that harassing airport security should be a crime, a felony in fact. It distracts them from their job, and weakens our multi-layered security posture putting the lives of hundreds if not thousands of people at risk. While he was playing games real agents were tied up from doing a real job.

They were the ones who tied themselves up detaining a man they had no right nor business detaining. And once the situation got barked up the food chain he was let go and they were left staring at the walls.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Dude you are cracked. What spyware?

I'm running a port analyzer and can see every connection - there's no spyware in IE Spell Checker.

You can never be too carefull.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Unfortunately (or fortunately as the case may be) it's not a crime to be a jerk. I don't think this guy even went that far, but he could have been more helpful and been on his way a little more quickly.

Agreed...

But... I would consider it time well spent to be one of the few that will stand up and make the point.

One of the few that will take them and put their nose to the line of their authority so they get a real good look at it.

Maybe next time they will remember it.

Again... 3 cheers for the dude.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila

When he asked if he was required by law to answer the questions asked of him they stated that they were simply asking him some simple questions to clarify matters. Please also note...this recording picks up in the back room. It doesn't pick up at the actual checkpoint. If you listen, you'll hear the agent from the check point explaining that this was the same thing the guy was doing at the check point when he was trying to get the guy to his plane on time.

That is because it was equally as true at the checkpoint as it was in the back room...

He was not legally required to answer the question.

They tried to make him.

They tried to push him.

They are used to scared sheeple who just can't wait to blurt out the next YES SIR just to appease the great security gods.

He showed them where the line was and, hopefully, they learned a little something today.

I won't hold my breath though.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Agreed...

But... I would consider it time well spent to be one of the few that will stand up and make the point.

One of the few that will take them and put their nose to the line of their authority so they get a real good look at it.

Maybe next time they will remember it.

Again... 3 cheers for the dude.

Amen

these brown suits are just on their little power grab agenda. Ask them an authority question and they talk handcuffs and detention.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted By Miss Brattified
I'm amazed, too, that $4700.00 is being deemed a large amount of cash. It really isn't.

True... It isn't.

It is to a TSA Agent though.

That might be where the problem lies.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Aquila
It should be a crime to play these kinds of games with airport security because it takes them away from policing REAL threats

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Well... as those fine gentlemen found out in the tape.

It isn't.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

That is because it was equally as true at the checkpoint as it was in the back room...

He was not legally required to answer the question.

They tried to make him.

They tried to push him.

He showed them where the line was and, hopefully, they learned a little something today.

I won't hold my breath though.

These are retarded when i listen to their speaking. There are enough lawyers traveling, one may one day have their lunch. These low end door jerkers will try to get the lawyer listed as "conservative activist" i believe is the label missouri uses as did Aquilla and they will get a pattern of hassles. So it is a right to see the TSA profile and they won't cooperate. That will be another charge.
At least there are plain clothes marshals and FBI around that have real training and education. Some of the brown suits will get some reality therapy.

Remember these are a component of class warefare. They do not have enough $$$$ for air travel but they get their thrills imagining they have the authority to detain people and interfere with air travel.

If a pilot friend flies you to Palm Springs, Calif., for golf or your boss sends you to an out-of-the-way spot on business, the trip might soon become less luxurious and more aggravating.

The U.S. Transportation Security Administration is proposing to subject private pilots, business jets and the small airports they use to many of the same security rules imposed on big commercial airlines and airports. If approved, the rules would mean a culture change for hundreds of thousands of travelers who have cherished the freedom and flexibility of private planes.

They include business and leisure travelers, medical personnel, athletes and the wealthy, who have been flying on private planes for decades, long before the TSA and long before 2001, when airline-security measures were increased. Business passengers point to the time savings, while others prize the privacy and convenience of their own planes.
Now, they could be checked against no-fly lists, barred from carrying tools and sporting equipment on board, and may even be required to save a seat for a federal air marshal.

My friends say this applies for max take-off weights over 12,500 pounds. So in agriculture or the oil patch this means a small twin.

A list of passengers must be given an hour before scheduling a take off.
I indirectly like this because it is the rich liberals that on one hand strive to destroy freedom and law and on the other hand want free plane trips with lobbyists to Aruba and Curcao.