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04-06-2009, 10:11 AM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
See why ask for the holy ghost he said it is a gift you don't ask for a gift from god..
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04-06-2009, 10:15 AM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
My best advice would be to read, pray and study stay with the word rightly divide it,stay with it,and please Jesus stay close to him,and as long as you are pleasing him then don't worry about the rest.
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04-06-2009, 11:11 AM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
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See why ask for the holy ghost he said it is a gift you don't ask for a gift from god..
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I think Luke 11 makes it clear we are to ask for the Holy Spirit.
9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
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04-06-2009, 11:18 AM
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I think Luke 11 makes it clear we are to ask for the Holy Spirit.
9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? |
i've always found this scripture to be very interesting...especially because the things mentioned(bread, fish, egg) are food and not really gifts.....like how Peter describes the Holy Ghost in ACTS 2.
Interesting choice of words since it was the good doctor who penned both.
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04-06-2009, 11:23 AM
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i've always found this scripture to be very interesting...especially because the things mentioned(bread, fish, egg) are food and not really gifts.....like how Peter describes the Holy Ghost in ACTS 2.
Interesting choice of words since it was the good doctor who penned both.
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The bread, fish, egg are items of daily sustenance and a child that asks has full trust in his father that they are good - not tainted, and not harmful.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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04-06-2009, 12:05 PM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
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The bread, fish, egg are items of daily sustenance and a child that asks has full trust in his father that they are good - not tainted, and not harmful.
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exactly....which to me makes it different than a "gift". I don't view "gifts" as being things of daily sustenance.
I am not making a statement that we should or should not ask God for the Holy Sprit...just that if we are dissecting verbage then it gets a little more complicated then simply blab it and grab it.
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04-06-2009, 12:12 PM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
While we are on the subject of asking for the holyghost lets say you have a person you are praying for to get the holyghost but they have no tongue and cannot speak they are mute how do you know they have the holyghost this ? is for all the tongues as evidence enthusiest (sp) remember god made this person born of this nature...
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04-06-2009, 12:21 PM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
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While we are on the subject of asking for the holyghost lets say you have a person you are praying for to get the holyghost but they have no tongue and cannot speak they are mute how do you know they have the holyghost this ? is for all the tongues as evidence enthusiest (sp) remember god made this person born of this nature...
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good question....i've personally seen one but not the other. I've seen and heard a deaf/mute recieve the Holy Spirit and heard them speak with tongues.
As for a person with no tongue...I wouldn't consider this a problem because tongues are only a sign and there are many other signs that show the Holy Spirit is living & working in a persons life. A person with no tongue cannot surrender something they do not have.
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04-06-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
I have a deaf friend that says (signs) that he spoke in tongues. Not the same as not having a tongue but close. I have also personally saw a retarded person speaking in tongues.
If you didn't have a tongue I don't know what you would do. There will always be "if's" while we are in the natural realm.
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04-06-2009, 01:28 PM
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Re: I Knew This Would Happen....
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See why ask for the holy ghost he said it is a gift you don't ask for a gift from god..
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Jesus said to ask God.
Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
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