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04-14-2009, 09:34 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Yeah, the Federal government is going nuts. You should have just told the Census taker that the "animals" were the only Democrats in your county. They'd be protected then.
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They have already gone nuts.
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04-14-2009, 09:55 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Well today I had a little visit from your friendly neighborhood federal gestapo.
They stopped by verifying my address for the mailing of the long awaited 2010 census.
He never asked my name. He asked if he had the address right.
He said "Looks like you have some animals back there. You have some goats & some chickens?" To which I replied.. "That's what it looks like."
I wish I had been thinking better at the time I would have told him I didn't want any mention of animals noted.
When they finally pass the NAIS then you will have to obtain a Premise ID from the federal government if you own even one chicken. Even if it is a pet. This goes for all food animals.. milking included. If one dies you have to let them know within 24 hours. If you sell one you have to let them know... if you move one you have to let them know. If they come and audit your land and you have one goat that died and you didn't turn it in then you will face very large fines. This one stop by my house today has put me on the list for the houses they will immediately visit when the NAIS is finally forced through against the massive opposition to it. Of course the NAIS is touted as voluntary... but they always bring their draconian legislation in as voluntary and then make it mandatory.
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Back in 1990, I actually was a census taker, made I think about $10.00 per hour. It was fun and interesting, we had an influx of Southeast Asians into Stockton at the time, they were very reluctant to give any information. Almost like pulling teeth.
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04-14-2009, 10:08 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Well today I had a little visit from your friendly neighborhood federal gestapo.
They stopped by verifying my address for the mailing of the long awaited 2010 census.
He never asked my name. He asked if he had the address right.
He said "Looks like you have some animals back there. You have some goats & some chickens?" To which I replied.. "That's what it looks like."
I wish I had been thinking better at the time I would have told him I didn't want any mention of animals noted.
When they finally pass the NAIS then you will have to obtain a Premise ID from the federal government if you own even one chicken. Even if it is a pet. This goes for all food animals.. milking included. If one dies you have to let them know within 24 hours. If you sell one you have to let them know... if you move one you have to let them know. If they come and audit your land and you have one goat that died and you didn't turn it in then you will face very large fines. This one stop by my house today has put me on the list for the houses they will immediately visit when the NAIS is finally forced through against the massive opposition to it. Of course the NAIS is touted as voluntary... but they always bring their draconian legislation in as voluntary and then make it mandatory.
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This is the first I have heard of this. I will need to tell my Mom and BIL. One raises chickens in La and the other cows in Al. I am guessing this is nation wide?
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04-14-2009, 10:52 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Esther
This is the first I have heard of this. I will need to tell my Mom and BIL. One raises chickens in La and the other cows in Al. I am guessing this is nation wide?
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Please don't fill out voter registrations for the chickens.
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04-14-2009, 11:23 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
Back in 1990, I actually was a census taker, made I think about $10.00 per hour. It was fun and interesting, we had an influx of Southeast Asians into Stockton at the time, they were very reluctant to give any information. Almost like pulling teeth.
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Well it is now illegal to not answer the census.
Go figure.
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04-14-2009, 11:54 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by coadie
Please don't fill out voter registrations for the chickens.
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How about the cows? More of them.
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04-14-2009, 11:56 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Well it is now illegal to not answer the census.
Go figure.
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Yes it is. I had one harass me about sending mine in. I told her I would fill it out and mail it in but I had a situation going on at the time that it would have to wait.
She then informed me I could be fined and imprisoned if I didn't fill it out. I again told her I would fill it out, but she would have to wait. Then she wanted to send someone to help me fill it out. I again said she would have to WAIT! Hello, do you get I am not doing it this week?
So I took care of the crisis, filled it out and mailed it in. Good grief, was she ever parnoid.
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04-14-2009, 11:58 AM
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
They can think all they want.
But they don't have the right to control what a person raises on their own property to feed their own family.
Period.
And... Conversely... I do have the right to control what I raise on my own property to feed my own family.
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If it's a law, then it's their right.
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04-14-2009, 11:59 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by Esther
Yes it is. I had one harass me about sending mine in. I told her I would fill it out and mail it in but I had a situation going on at the time that it would have to wait.
She then informed me I could be fined and imprisoned if I didn't fill it out. I again told her I would fill it out, but she would have to wait. Then she wanted to send someone to help me fill it out. I again said she would have to WAIT! Hello, do you get I am not doing it this week?
So I took care of the crisis, filled it out and mailed it in. Good grief, was she ever parnoid.
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Oh all of this angers me beyond end.
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04-14-2009, 11:59 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Knock, Knock Census Bureau Calling.
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Originally Posted by coadie
Please don't fill out voter registrations for the chickens.
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Only Democrats do that
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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