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04-21-2009, 05:32 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
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I primarily speak Pennsylvania Dutch which is a German Dialect. It has developed some on it's own in the past 300 - 400 years and added some English words.
In Germany today there are over 30 dialects spoken in various regions - Those who speak the dialects are also all taught standard German in Schools.
In America the Mennonites and Amish followed the practice of reading, writing and singing German but reverting to Pa Dutch in everyday communication. My family went to the public school and received very little of the formal German learning. It is a bit difficult but I can communicate with Germans and have done so on many occasions.
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Can you understand the dutch from the Netherlands?
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04-21-2009, 06:39 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
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Can you understand the dutch from the Netherlands?
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No not much - though many of those languages are similar - even Yiddish has some words I understand. Pennsylvania Dutch is a Palatine German-derived language, not Holland or Netherlands Dutch at all.
There are several theories about why it was termed "Dutch" in the Penn. region. I think the following is the most likely explanation.
The German word for German is "Deutsch". Thus, if a person described themselves as a Pennsylvania "Deutschman", he meant Pennsylvania German. Thus, recent generations of English speaking people in the United States, corrupted the pronunciation and spelling to Pennsylvania "Dutchman".
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04-21-2009, 07:53 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
Steve, my grandmother used to say about my grandfather - the one who is descended from Pierre Stuckey, the Amish-Mennonite gr-gr-gr-grandfather who came over from Alsace Lorraine, France - that he was "German Deutch and not worth much". LOL
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04-21-2009, 08:40 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
Talking about this and preparing for the concert today has brought memories of my late father, Elam. Here is an early picture of the Hoover family.
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04-21-2009, 09:25 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
About a video of the performance ?
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04-21-2009, 09:49 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
Video I don't think will be allowed - I may be able to get some audio though.
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
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Originally Posted by Margies3
Steve, my grandmother used to say about my grandfather - the one who is descended from Pierre Stuckey, the Amish-Mennonite gr-gr-gr-grandfather who came over from Alsace Lorraine, France - that he was "German Deutch and not worth much". LOL
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LOL! I'ts funny the old sayings people used to have. I can think of many little Pennsylvania German rhymes we used to have.
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04-22-2009, 11:21 AM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
Stephen, Old Order Mennonite are ok with having photos taken? I'm asking because I didn't know.
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04-22-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
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Stephen, Old Order Mennonite are ok with having photos taken? I'm asking because I didn't know.
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LOL! Not so much... the above photo was taken when a reporter approached my father and asked and he agreed sort of spur of the moment. It ended up in the newspaper. The stance on photos is less rigid than the Amish, though neither can have cameras.
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04-25-2009, 10:02 PM
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Re: Pennsylvania Dutch
We had a great time tonight at the "Pennsylvania Dutch" concert with John Schmid.
The girls wore their Mennonite dresses in honor of their heritage.
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