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Originally Posted by edjen01
right...but thats like asking if God can make a rock to big for him to pick up!!
i have no issue believing that Jesus was/is God.
I'm trying to understand what form you are talking about. the human form of the man Jesus called the Christ was born in Bethlehem...and was not eternal...hence John 3:16...the begotten Son...to be begotten you need to have a beginning...and to have a beginning means that one cannot be eternal.
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Originally Posted by TJJJ
Okay,
Explain this then.
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
What we must explain is, what does THE SON mean?
Luke wrote that the SON was the thing to be born. You are saying that the SON pre-existed the incarnation.
Do you believe that the SON is referencing the flesh?
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I am saying that the SON pre-existed the incarnation-- I think
Micah 5:2 refers to this.
I freely admit I can be wrong and will reverse myself if necessary.
I don't think that is necessary at this point.
If Jesus did not pre-exist, what glory did He share with the Father and HOW did He share it? St.
John 17:5
I think a lot of folks refuse to take my position because it lends itself to the trinitarian view of God a bit more easily-- a view I do not hold.
I simply choose to believe all the scriptures in what they say about our GOD and Savior-- Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.