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Old 06-10-2009, 09:00 PM
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Re: Confessions of an Autonomous Church Planter

bump for The Fine Print. I was cleaning out my document file on my hard drive and found a copy of this article that I had cut and paste over 2 years ago. It still blessed me to read it again.

THE FINE PRINT

Here's the devotion from The Purpose Driven Life which gives this same message:

2/22/2007
The fine print
by John Fischer

“We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed. We are perplexed, but not driven to despair. We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God. We get knocked down, but we are not destroyed. Through suffering, our bodies continue to share in the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies.” (2 Corinthians 4:8-10 NLT)

These verses are what I call the fine print of the Christian life. When you sign up, you sign up for this, but unfortunately, not too many people read that far into the contract, and not enough leaders point it out. So when bad things start happening to us, we think something went wrong with our faith. Not necessarily. In fact, it’s an honor to think that your faith is worthy of being tested.

It’s a reverse spiritual principle that nonetheless is true: We get beaten down so that Christ might rise in us. It’s the whole idea God has of avoiding confusion. See, he doesn’t want people confusing human power and achievement with his power and what he is achieving in and through our lives. If all Christians were super-Christians, people would be impressed with them. As it is, God wants people to be surprised at us, not so much impressed – surprised that we can keep on believing, given what has happened to us. Surprised at us – impressed with God. That’s the way it should go.

It’s important to know this so that the things that happen don’t throw us into a tailspin. Paul wrote in the passage above that troubles, confusions, knock-downs, and drag-outs are all to be expected in a life of faith, and they are not just something to suck it up and endure, they are what will actually release the power of God in our lives. We encounter death-like experiences so that Christ’s life-like nature may clearly be seen in us, despite what is happening.

Let me try and say this again. This is not just endurance training through tough times. This is God’s strategy for ministry through us. There is no other way for it to be done. His strategy is his power and strength through our weakness – his life through our death. This doesn’t just happen to some Christians; it happens to us all if we desire to be effective in our faith.

So don’t forget the fine print today, and allow the troubles you face to springboard you into finding God’s purposes even in this. He had this planned all along. It’s even in the contract!
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: Confessions of an Autonomous Church Planter

Mizpeh, I had forgotten about this thread.

God IS faithful.

I am a blessed and happy man.

However, that was a very dark time in my life.

Please continue praying for my wife.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:22 PM
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Mizpeh, I had forgotten about this thread.

God IS faithful.

I am a blessed and happy man.

However, that was a very dark time in my life.

Please continue praying for my wife.
Will do.
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Re: Confessions of an Autonomous Church Planter

very interesting...faithfulness ....keep on keeping on...
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:40 AM
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I like that about the fine print!

Great post!
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:02 PM
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We had an awesome service this morning. The spirit of God moved in a very refreshing way, and the gifts of the Spirit were in operation from the very first prayer of the service.

I have been in my city for a little over six years, and we've seen great miracles. We have also suffered enormous setbacks. In 2005 our church baptized over 25 people and saw almost as many receive the Holy Ghost. In 2006, we lost almost half of our church for a variety of reasons. We have begun to recover, and attendance is steadily climbing again.

My wife and I have been on a never-ending roller coaster ride since August of 2000. For the past year the church has been in full "bunker mentality" mode. Compounding the problem - my wife has been diagnosed with Graves Disease. But in all of our trials, God has been good. As of Monday of last week, our church is completely debt free. I now have saints who are capable of teaching and ministring to others.

This morning a message in tongues came forward that confirmed what the Lord had spoken to me while I was on vacation in Colorado last month. I am paraphrasing, but the gist of the message was that Jesus knows where we are at, that a spiritual rain such as we have never experienced is on its way, and that the Lord promised to send winds of refreshing, beginning immedately.

This all happened before one key was played on the keyboard. People were weeping, and clapping, and praising God all over the building. There was a noticable change in the atmosphere of our people.

I want to encourage every church planter and home missions church to stay in the fight. Faith brings a reward. Don't give up hope. The Lord still walks among his churches.
This is an "old thread" but it's good to think about our brothers and sisters who are faithfully fighting the good fight day after day with no recognition, no fanfare, just plugging away where God has called them. They are building on the one true foundation and some day they will be rewarded for their faithfulness in laboring in God's "land under cultivation, His garden" and how they built up His house/building according to His plan (1 Cor. 3:5-15). "Each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort (sort, not size) it is" (see verse 13).
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:10 PM
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This is an "old thread" but it's good to think about our brothers and sisters who are faithfully fighting the good fight day after day with no recognition, no fanfare, just plugging away where God has called them. They are building on the one true foundation and some day they will be rewarded for their faithfulness in laboring in God's "land under cultivation, His garden" and how they built up His house/building according to His plan (1 Cor. 3:5-15). "Each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort (sort, not size) it is" (see verse 13).
verse 10 of that 3rd chapter tells us to be careful "how" we build --not how much we build or how big we build-- just how we build.
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