Why Such A Fuss Over Standards!! - Page 13

MissBrattified · #**121** 06-18-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Abigail,
You are passing yourself on your words. You are saying - "When I see a door He has opened..." Abigail, you saw direction. God guided - that' how it works. Why? Because in your heart that is what you believe that He does and so He does it. I think you just enjoy arguing with me!!!

Well, you are fun to talk to, until you flip your lid and throw in the towel.

But I'm not arguing just to be arguing. There was an actual point you made that I disagreed with. LOL!!!!!

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I know some people don't care for Joyce Meyers and I know I wouldn't listen to her on a regular basis, but recently she was in our area and a friend was sharing something she said.

This is very awesome because it is true! She was sharing that she was going to speak at a meeting in San Antonio and a piece of hair kept sticking up. She couldn't get it right! God spoke to her that she should ask that He would help her. She thought, "I'm not going to ask God to help me with my hair!"

Well, pretty soon she was forced to because she had to get it fixed. Guess what? It worked and her hair was ready. She said she learned a huge lesson - GOD wants to be involved in every minute detail of our lives!

I rejoiced when I heard that because I believe it!!! If I can't find my car keys, I ask Him to show me where they are? If I need a new outfit, I ask Him to help me find what I want at the price I want to pay!

That is how real living for God, in the Spirit, is to me!

I totally buy into that. Of course He cares about the small things.

I'm not arguing that we shouldn't look to God for answers. I just don't think He always spells things out clearly. Sometimes having to work through a situation on our own is His plan for us.

ILG · #**122** 06-18-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

It probably was the best thing you ever did - IF you were in the will of God!

That's right, Sister.

Pressing-On · #**123** 06-18-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

That's right, Sister.

GrowingPains · #**124** 06-18-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I was treated horribly by leadership. And I did see it through--for a little while. We didn't just "cut and run." We even gave a 30 day notice before leaving, since we were on staff, and I personally endured being yelled at from the pulpit, things like, "I don't care WHO your Mama and Daddy are--you're going to split the pit if you don't correct that rebellious attitude." A rebellious attitude which I didn't even HAVE, I might add.

Not once did I EVER speak to another person in that church about the issues we were facing, not even to my friends, except for one who was already attending another church. I did not ONCE talk back to or sass the pastor or his wife. I didn't even look at them funny. I didn't even say a word on our last night in service when the pastor's wife walked up to me, gave me a sickeningly sweet hug, and in a sudden show of solidarity, whispered in my ear that I should watch out--my husband might fall back into false doctrine. I remember being so numb, I couldn't have said anything, even if the words had appeared in my brain--which they didn't until much, much later.

And, like you, years later, I have been entirely vindicated--without my hand ever having to stir the pot. So, PO, I agree. I had to hold out and let God fight my battles. But that does not mean I am weak or wrong for not staying to endure actual harm at the hands of ignorant, spiritually weak, self-serving people. I DID find safe shelter, both in the form of a new church, AND in private with God. And I let Him sort out the rest.

Even now, over 10 years later, I rarely even speak the name of my pastor and his wife. If I do discuss things generically, like right now, I keep it anonymous, and I have no wish to slander the people personally responsible, even though I know enough to rip them to shreds among their peers and their community--and in some cases, even from a legal standpoint.

If God led you to stay, then you did the right thing. He did no such thing with us, and so we also are confident that we did the right thing. At the time, my only backbone was my husband, and I'm so glad he behaved like the godly leader he is and informed me of his decisions, rather than letting me sit and steep in a toxic tea of corruption while I tried to see through a cloud. It's quite possible that God knew I wouldn't be able to handle it, so he placed a man in my life who would lead me right out of the situation.

Regardless, the point is, the same God who is leading you is leading me, and has led me--and my family--for many years.

My father didn't "cut and run" whenever people treated THIS PK badly, either. But there were times when he should have placed the well being of his family above his secondary ministry to the congregation. And that's just plain and simple truth.

Thanks for this post. I'm identifying more than you.

*AQuietPlace* · #**125** 06-18-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Will it take another two hours to hear from God as to whether or not it was Him who spoke to us?

Would my wife be in sin if she followed me there not knowing if God spoke to me directly?

SHE first mentioned it, but is that just the wily words of a woman talking?

Baron heard from God on your behalf.

And of course your wife was deceived.... just like Eve.

Pressing-On · #**126** 06-18-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Well, you are fun to talk to, until you flip your lid and throw in the towel.

But I'm not arguing just to be arguing. There was an actual point you made that I disagreed with. LOL!!!!!

I totally buy into that. Of course He cares about the small things.

I'm not arguing that we shouldn't look to God for answers. I just don't think He always spells things out clearly. Sometimes having to work through a situation on our own is His plan for us.

Yes, but in the working it out, HE is the one that is doing the directing - teaching, healing, etc. Do you see my point? We are NOT ALONE!

At the end of the day - you have agreed with me all along - you just like to go long with it. I don't recall ever throwing in the towel either! I hang on for dear life until I'm tired of making my points!

MissBrattified · #**127** 06-18-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Yes, but in the working it out, HE is the one that is doing the directing - teaching, healing, etc. Do you see my point? We are NOT ALONE!

At the end of the day - you have agreed with me all along - you just like to go long with it. I don't recall ever throwing in the towel either! I hang on for dear life until I'm tired of making my points!

Come to think of it, I don't recall that either.

I might recall a couple of lid flips.

Pressing-On · #**128** 06-18-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Come to think of it, I don't recall that either.

I might recall a couple of lip flips.

You can get snarky with it too, girlfriend, but I love ya anyway, you little creep!

MissBrattified · #**129** 06-18-2009, 01:57 PM

I'm OUT!!! I've been sitting on my behind all day. I have been very unproductive today. My husband needs my help with the garage, and I'm sitting here typing, watching him sweat, and ignoring his questions. LOL!!!!

Pressing-On · #**130** 06-18-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I'm OUT!!! I've been sitting on my behind all day. I have been very unproductive today. My husband needs my help with the garage, and I'm sitting here typing, watching him sweat, and ignoring his questions. LOL!!!!

I was just going to say that - I'M OUT!!!! My painting project went down the tubes today - I'll try again tomorrow.