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06-23-2009, 08:13 PM
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Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
I come to you hoping you can answer several serious questions. Doing so will require some time, contemplation and bravery.
Here goes...
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
2. Why are Apostolics so afraid of intellectualism?
3. Why do Apostolics give an inordinate amount of attention to the Devil, witchcraft and all things superstitious?
4. Why are Apostolics territorial?
5. Which is the greater threat to Apostolics; the Emerging Church, or introversion?
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06-23-2009, 08:19 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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06-23-2009, 08:24 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
Being Apostolic myself I cant think of any Jesus name people I hate.
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06-23-2009, 08:29 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
Fear & insecurity of their own salvation.
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06-23-2009, 08:29 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
Not sure I'd use the word hatred. Maybe it's more pride or ego and the inability to share.
Just like little kids have to one up everyone. It seems that if there is more than one Apostolic church in a town, they have to be the best. No sharing. Their doctrine and standards are the "right" ones, etc.
I know in many cities the local assemblies do not fellowship each other.
For unknown reasons "our" churches are easily threatened (by each other!)
Over simplification, yes; but true!
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06-23-2009, 08:41 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
I don't think I would call it hatred, but there is definitely a lot of divisiveness. People seem to have a hard time fellowshipping people that don't believe things pretty much like they do, even if they agree on baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost. I'm not sure why.
2. Why are Apostolics so afraid of intellectualism?
Because we have so much invested in being "right". In having "the truth". We don't want the boat rocked. When people start 'questioning' they often end up leaving their church, so we've drawn the conclusion that questioning is bad. You should just accept the truth, and not argue with it. Questioning is a sign that your heart is getting cold, and you're drifting from the truth.
3. Why do Apostolics give an inordinate amount of attention to the Devil, witchcraft and all things superstitious?
If we do, it is probably because we're spirit-filled, so we know there is a realm out there beyond just the natural that we can see.
4. Why are Apostolics territorial?
Is this exclusive to Apostolics?
5. Which is the greater threat to Apostolics; the Emerging Church, or introversion?
Introversion. Exclusiveness.
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06-23-2009, 08:53 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by moniker
I come to you hoping you can answer several serious questions. Doing so will require some time, contemplation and bravery.
Here goes...
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
division/hatred..close cousins I guess. We ALL think we are the ones that got it right.
2. Why are Apostolics so afraid of intellectualism?
cuz it so often leads people to differnet conclusions about "THE DOCTRINE"
3. Why do Apostolics give an inordinate amount of attention to the Devil, witchcraft and all things superstitious?
Ignorance! The Debil gets blamed for everything. Truth be he has no power in the life of the blood bouhgt. 95% of what we blame on the devil, the poor guy just had nothing to do with it.
4. Why are Apostolics territorial?
That's greed, pure and simple. What is not greed is fear. Fear that my saints will like this other church/pastor better than me.
5. Which is the greater threat to Apostolics; the Emerging Church, or introversion?
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Introversion, if I have to choose between those two.
There ya go moniker...anything else ya want to know?
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06-23-2009, 09:17 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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I come to you hoping you can answer several serious questions. Doing so will require some time, contemplation and bravery.
Here goes...
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
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I don't think it's hatred, I think it's more like disgust. I think many view the term "Apostolic" as a brand - or a badge of honor. So when people with lower standards tarnish the brand by watering it down, it makes people angry that their badge of honor holds less value. That's why we all get into arguments about what the term "apostolic" and "pentecostal" really means and who it classifies.
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06-23-2009, 09:35 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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I don't think it's hatred, I think it's more like disgust. I think many view the term "Apostolic" as a brand - or a badge of honor. So when people with lower standards tarnish the brand by watering it down, it makes people angry that their badge of honor holds less value. That's why we all get into arguments about what the term "apostolic" and "pentecostal" really means and who it classifies.
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Well said.
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06-23-2009, 09:44 PM
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Re: Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics
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Originally Posted by moniker
I come to you hoping you can answer several serious questions. Doing so will require some time, contemplation and bravery.
Here goes..
1. Why is there so much hatred between Apostolics?
A) Hatred is not the right word. I think the exclusiveness of our doctrine sometimes attract (more often breed) a certain type of people that thrive on being exclusive-- causing an oversompetitive spirit to develop between otherwise godly Pastors and their flocks.
2. Why are Apostolics so afraid of intellectualism?
A) Broad and groundless generalization.
3. Why do Apostolics give an inordinate amount of attention to the Devil, witchcraft and all things superstitious?
A) Acknowledging there is a dark spiritual realm is not superstitious, but there are a few "spooooky Pentecostals" out there-- Maybe they are spooky because they have a lot of time on their hands.
4. Why are Apostolics territorial?
A) I don't know. I think that church planning and planting should be in a way that makes good sense. This is a far cry from being territorial.
5. Which is the greater threat to Apostolics; the Emerging Church, or introversion?
A) Introversion!
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Good questions.
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