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06-24-2009, 12:52 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
They are not threatening to wipe out the US. They are stating "If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all,"
Question... would it bother you in the least if a Korean ship was tailing a US Ship?
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Absolutely. I'm biased. 
You're playing semantics. What "aggressors" do you think they're referring to? 
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06-24-2009, 01:02 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Absolutely. I'm biased.
You're playing semantics. What "aggressors" do you think they're referring to? |
I don't see where anyone said anything about aggressors.
Semantics? I think it is called apples to apples.
Semantics is nit picking over words.
i am stating and you are agreeing with the premise that you see no issue with doing to others what you would not tolerate other doing to you.
That isn't semantics...
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06-24-2009, 01:06 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
I don't see where anyone said anything about aggressors.
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"...the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all,"
So who is NK calling "aggressors?"
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Semantics? I think it is called apples to apples.
Semantics is nit picking over words.
i am stating and you are agreeing with the premise that you see no issue with doing to others what you would not tolerate other doing to you.
That isn't semantics...
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People who threaten the wellbeing of others lose their rights to fair treatment, IMO. No different than one of my children losing their privacy through some violation of a rule or dishonest behavior. I will not hesitate to search their rooms or remove their privileges, until they have earned my trust.
I see no need to treat everyone the same, if they have not earned that respect.
Anyway, by "semantics" I meant reading the quote and stating NK did not threaten to wipe anyone out. They quite clearly stated they would "wipe out the aggressors." And the context points to the US being the "aggressor" in their view. Which is quite ludicrous, since NK is clearly the aggressor in this instance.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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06-24-2009, 01:10 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
"...the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all,"
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Well there was never a question about that.
I never said they weren't referring to the US. Are we not aggressors in the world today?
What I am stating is that there is a different between... I am going to blow you away... and... if you shoot at me I am going to blow you away.
One is a direct, personal and unconditional threat of unprovoked violence.
The other is a threat of retaliation SHOULD the subject party make a first move.
There's a difference but, while the statement is the latter example, it is being touted as the former.
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06-24-2009, 01:12 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
Well there was never a question about that.
I never said they weren't referring to the US. Are we not aggressors in the world today?
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Originally Posted by D4T
I don't see where anyone said anything about aggressors.
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What I am stating is that there is a different between... I am going to blow you away... and... if you shoot at me I am going to blow you away.
One is a direct, personal and unconditional threat of unprovoked violence.
The other is a threat of retaliation SHOULD the subject party make a first move.
There's a difference but, while the statement is the latter example, it is being touted as the former.
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It's a game, though, because NK has already been threatening the U.S. and others. They are already the aggressors. We have informed THEM of the consequences if they don't stop their actions, and now they are trying to turn the tables and make it look like we're responsible for their further aggression.
It's ludicrous.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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06-24-2009, 01:19 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
It's a game, though, because NK has already been threatening the U.S. and others. They are already the aggressors. We have informed THEM of the consequences if they don't stop their actions, and now they are trying to turn the tables and make it look like we're responsible for their further aggression.
It's ludicrous.
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Then all we have to do is not start another war and we have foiled their evil plot.
Hopefully we won't...
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06-24-2009, 04:16 PM
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Re: Ok when is enough...enough
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Rubbish.
North Korea is posturing.
Nothing more.
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Honestly, this is exactly what I thought when I read about this.
But we shall see.
For the record, if things get ugly, America did not start this. It is clear that we are not the aggressors in this. But I hope that NK doesn't try to test our will to use force.
I don't think FOX did much to add to NK's words and I don't think NK is going to be so stupid.
If they are that stupid, well I hope our response is strong.
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