Conservative Camp Meeting, Ventura, CA.06/22-06/26

[Steve Epley]

If women want to wear pants and be an abomination to God that is their choice.

[Brad Murphy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If women want to wear pants and be an abomination to God that is their choice.

Yes, and if men wish to claim that Westberg was a good man, that is their choice...

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If women want to wear pants and be an abomination to God that is their choice.

Classic Epley! LoL


Prayin for you.

[On The Wheel]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If women want to wear pants and be an abomination to God that is their choice.

Amazing! Nowhere does the bible say pants on a woman is an abomination to God. The question what is men's and women's apparel is NOT DEFINED. My original question was is still unanswered. Dogma is all that matters.

I am tired of dogma replacing scripture. I am weary with narrowing the already narrow way. I am fed up with the those who refuse do present bible arguments for positions they are willing to condemn others to Hell over.

Things are wrong because the leaders said they are wrong, and that's just the way it is. Things are right because the leaders say they are right. The bible is subordinate to our forefathers.

It's positively Orwelian!

Where is Truth?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by On The Wheel

Amazing! Nowhere does the bible say pants on a woman is an abomination to God. The question what is men's and women's apparel is NOT DEFINED. My original question was is still unanswered. Dogma is all that matters.

I am tired of dogma replacing scripture. I am weary with narrowing the already narrow way. I am fed up with the those who refuse do present bible arguments for positions they are willing to condemn others to Hell over.

Things are wrong because the leaders said they are wrong, and that's just the way it is. Things are right because the leaders say they are right. The bible is subordinate to our forefathers.

It's positively Orwelian!

Where is Truth?

It doesn't say it. Only in traditional apostolic/UPC teachings, do we get the pants=abomination argument and we KNOW what trumps what most of the time, aka, tradition versus the Word.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by On The Wheel

Apparently not! I guess they got tired of defending indefensible positions and abandoned the field. That can be exhausting. Disheartening. Frustrating.

or they just got tired of the same non-stop attacks on their beliefs? After a while it can get old and they either avoid those topics or leave,

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by On The Wheel

"Obedience is better than sacrifice." This is the quote most oft used after the, "Obey them that have the rule over you" clause. I believe both these quotes, however, obedience to the world trumps all other allegiances.

His word is, of course, even exalted above His Name. Jesus Christ was subject to his own word. He was guided and constrained by it.

So who do we think we are to think what we say has equal or greater authority than God's word?

I take it that was a mistake???

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

I take it that was a mistake???

OTW is a worldlicostal!

[GrowingPains]

Elder Epley, you genuinely and sincerely believe that when a woman wears pants she is "worse than an infidel" and an "abomination?" Really? I mean, beyond you don't see it as proper, or becoming... beyond you don't see it as modest -- you honestly believe Deut was referring to pants??? I respect you a lot, I'm just somewhat astonished that you would truly believe pants are abominable.

[OnTheFritz]

Originally Posted by Timmy

There are many tools in the box!

There are indeed plenty of tools out there