Shooting At Virginia Tech-33 Dead!

Originally Posted by Ron

I agree Chancellor, they are no more tragic than others, but the media reported
on this one.

Yes, and as is so typical of the media, they are selective in their reporting and that selectivity so often tends to ignore certain communities or groups of people.

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by Chan

As I've said before in other threads, I don't imply.

I'm sorry that you and others don't think it's valid to ask how many other people were shot today.

I guess I just don't understand what your point was then. Were you saying that we should not be discussing this incident because there were other people who were also shot somewhere else in the world today? Was your point to minimalize this incident in some way???

My point to you is that you should say what you mean. When you say things in the way that you have so far, and then we all misunderstand what you were saying, is that our fault? If only one of us misunderstood, then I'd say the answer is 'yes, it's the fault of the person who misunderstood.' But when this many misunderstand, then perhaps the spotlight needs to be pointed a different direction.

Originally Posted by Ron

It is a valid question-I just don't have the answer.
Do you perhaps?

No, I don't have the answer.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Chan

Yes, and as is so typical of the media, they are selective in their reporting and that selectivity so often tends to ignore certain communities or groups of people.

You are right and that is subject for another thread because there is a lot to be said there.

JMHO

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Chan

Because, like the world, there's a tendency to think that some deaths are tragic and not even think about other deaths.

Would we?

But the media has a tendency to ignore deaths that occur in certain communities or among certain groups of people.

Did I say that anyone said it?

Care to be specific?!

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Chan

Because, like the world, there's a tendency to think that some deaths are tragic and not even think about other deaths.

Would we?

But the media has a tendency to ignore deaths that occur in certain communities or among certain groups of people.

Did I say that anyone said it?

yeah, as a matter of fact, you did...

you said we need to stop thinking like the world....

Originally Posted by Margies3

I guess I just don't understand what your point was then. Were you saying that we should not be discussing this incident because there were other people who were also shot somewhere else in the world today? Was your point to minimalize this incident in some way???

My point to you is that you should say what you mean. When you say things in the way that you have so far, and then we all misunderstand what you were saying, is that our fault? If only one of us misunderstood, then I'd say the answer is 'yes, it's the fault of the person who misunderstood.' But when this many misunderstand, then perhaps the spotlight needs to be pointed a different direction.

I asked a simple question: "So, how many other people were shot today?" That question means exactly and only what it says. There is nothing implied there. You and others chose to read into the question that I was minimalizing this particular tragedy or that I was saying it was wrong to discuss the incident. And, yes, it is your fault because most of you do read into what others post. You do look for hidden meanings, for things implied or inferred or insinuated.

But, to clarify further since you didn't understand the very simple, straight forward question, why is this particular tragedy so worthy of our attention and the tragedy of the various unreported deaths isn't? (Please note that I said "we" and not "you;" I'm including myself in this).

Why do you and others get so bent out of shape when I view these kinds of things the way Jesus viewed them (as show in the passage in Luke I referred to in other posts)?

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by Chan

I asked a simple question: "So, how many other people were shot today?" That question means exactly and only what it says. There is nothing implied there. You and others chose to read into the question that I was minimalizing this particular tragedy or that I was saying it was wrong to discuss the incident. And, yes, it is your fault because most of you do read into what others post. You do look for hidden meanings, for things implied or inferred or insinuated.

But, to clarify further since you didn't understand the very simple, straight forward question, why is this particular tragedy so worthy of our attention and the tragedy of the various unreported deaths isn't? (Please note that I said "we" and not "you;" I'm including myself in this).

Why do you and others get so bent out of shape when I view these kinds of things the way Jesus viewed them (as show in the passage in Luke I referred to in other posts)?

not really, even JESUS would have shown some compassion in his question...

you asked a very point blank question in the midst of folks remarking on the sadness of the situation...and you are surprised that us dumb folk took you wrong...

no my friend, JESUS wouldnt have reacted that way. He would have added a little more to his question...

you are alone in this one

Originally Posted by Theresa

yeah, as a matter of fact, you did...

you said we need to stop thinking like the world....

So, how is my saying that we need to stop thinking like the world the same as saying what you accused me of saying, i.e. that I said we were saying "this event is any more tragic than the nameless person shot and killed this morning in some unknown location"?

It's true that "this event is any more tragic than the nameless person shot and killed this morning in some unknown location" is worldly thinking; but I didn't say that anyone said it.

[Barb]

The Scripture that Renda gave us for encouragement this morning is profitable this afternoon...

You will keep in perfect peace all who trust in you, all whose thoughts are fixed on you!

Isaiah 26:3, NLT

For those injured this day, for the grieving families, and grieving students and faculty, may the perfect peace of the Almighty rest on them this day...