The UPC is a dying movement! - Page 5

berkeley · #41 07-16-2009, 07:46 PM

Devout Catholics are very family oriented and well balanced individuals. Like the Mormons...

tv1a · #42 07-16-2009, 07:57 PM

That krap has always been around. It just happened to reach the information age and more people are exposed to their garbage.

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Originally Posted by Irreligious

Can you imagine what a great forum this would be if every thread were centered around inspirations, creative ideas, and strategies about how to reach our neighbors, co-workers, and relatives?
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But I've seen mostly gossip, judgment, trinitarian-bashing, character destroying, reputation shredding, and personal insults.

If a thread were started titled, "My experience in reaching my neighbor", would anyone even look? I wonder.

Hoovie · #43 07-16-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandra

At because of the times, the general sup. Kenneth haney said" Fathers encourage your sons to preach the gospel, we are getting no applications from men under the age of 45" .

I stand by my statement ITS DYING ! SANDRA

Sorry Sandra you are simply wrong.

The GS may very well been saying "in comparison to the way things once were... we are not getting the applications..."

However you wish to interpret - help yourself - but we have had a handful in our own church that fit the description apply and get license in the last few years.

Hoovie · #44 07-16-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Irreligious

Can you imagine what a great forum this would be if every thread were centered around inspirations, creative ideas, and strategies about how to reach our neighbors, co-workers, and relatives? But I've seen mostly gossip, judgment, trinitarian-bashing, character destroying, reputation shredding, and personal insults.

If a thread were started titled, "My experience in reaching my neighbor", would anyone even look? I wonder.

Irr, you jump into a red hot thread with strong opinions on both sides then make novel observations like this?

Give it time, friend. The vast majority of us here have been blessed immensely by the brethren here on AFF.

Most of us HAVE reached out to our neighbors. And this is not a Trinitarian bashing board - in spite of a few that may fit that description.

Please relax and take time to get to know us.

Blessings,

Steve Hoover

PS Do you like cream and sugar in your coffee?

Sam · #45 07-16-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinatra

I'm sorry that you've had a bad experience since joining this forum. IMO not everyone here acts that way.

That being said...not all of the UPCI preaches against trinitarians and what they believe. I grew up in the organization. I have had 4 different Pastors (well 5 counting my present one). NEVER in my life have I heard anti-trinitarian statements come from the pulpit. Maybe from the pews but not from one of my Pastor's. I've never been told not to fellowship with other denominations. As a matter of fact, we frequently, as a church attend functions of other churches and vice versa.

As my Pastor frequently says, none of us have ALL truth. We all have a measure of truth and we can all learn from each other.

I guess I've just been blessed to attend churches and have Pastor's who were more kingdom minded than small minded. ( with emphasis being put on Jesus and reaching the lost) So please don't paint the whole organization with the same broad brush. We aren't all the same.

Sinatra

now that is refreshing!!!

harleypreacher · #46 07-16-2009, 08:43 PM

When will the elders let the next generation be the next generation?

The UPC has about 15 good years left and it will be no more. Look aound guys, it was said in the general conference last year, all you see is gray and bald heads, there are very few young men voting.

I have talked to some 20 year old preachers and this what they say "Why do we need to pay dues to an organization that is going to dictate to us what we have to preach when it comes to holiness standards, why do we need the UPC to build a church?

Some of you guys may walk around with you head in the clouds thinking everything is great in the UPC, but my father who has been to many meetings in high places has told me its a big concern, the guys at UPCI HQ knows there is a problem with the younger generation.

The next generation tried to have church like the thier generation wants to have church and look what happen at the last youth congress two years ago.

There is a problem in the UPC, but the sad thing is the change may come too late.

Sherri · #47 07-16-2009, 08:45 PM

I think this thread is sad.

Hoovie · #48 07-16-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I think this thread is sad.

Yes because the thread title is false.

Not saying there isn't some merit, but the statement is not true at face value.

CC1 · #49 07-16-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

That may be true in the land of stars and stripes, but recent statistics, presented to the UPC of Canada's National Conference, show that, with the present growth trajectory, the UPC of Canada is destined to double.

The UPC may be dying in the hinterlands to the south, but its future is bright in the north lands.

Maple Syrup,

Any chance you are going to be rejoining the UPC in Canada to help jumpstart this growth?

OneAccord · #50 07-16-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne

"It's dead Jim"

"The needs of the many outweighs the needs of the one" -Spock

Wasn't this from the ST "Genesis" movie? What was the name of it? Well, maybe as long as there is some life, there is yet hope.