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Old 07-23-2009, 09:40 PM
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Re: Shaw: Theology & Outcomes Matter; Methods Don'

If you read between the lines, he's saying that those changing methods to more casual, conversational (read "emergent") style of churches, aren't having the outcomes where people are receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and Pentecostal worship. At least that's what I read. He says it much more eloquently of course.

He has a point. To him, the UPCI and the affirmation statement reflects 3-step doctrine, which most of the UPCI agrees. How many churches that no longer preach HG Baptism as essentiality still have a high percentage of believers receiving the HG with tongues? Valid point and concern from his perspective.

It's not the method, though. It's what the outcome he's seeing. I think it takes some line-reading to see this.
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