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[Esther]

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Here is your first post to me in this thread, since last night. Holding your tongue? Holding your tongue? Is that supposed to mean greetings?



You started right where you left off from last night. All you need to do is apologize. Yet, it doesn't look like youu will admit the wrong doing.



My children would be giggling, because their father is laughing while he types.

You were just picking up where you left off last night. Deal with your problem.
It's not my trial.

You're assumptions remain false, though I'm sure a reality in your head. I'm frankly surprised. I will admit my first post was a response to some really wild words you said to Sherri which I put "holding my tongue." I think that and "this guy" are quite mild compared to what you've said in the last dozen posts... actually this entire thread.

But as it is, and as I've PM'd you, I'm sorry. Between yourself and 3 others, we went down to a low-level of discussion and one I'm not proud of. Please forgive me. I'm sorry. In the future, if I can't be kind to you, I'll try to refrain from responding. That doesn't mean if I will agree with you, or even avoid won't debate with you, but if it ever goes this road again, you have my word that I'm out.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

You're assumptions remains false, though I'm sure a reality in your head.

Excuse me, but if you would of read Sister Sherri's posts to me we were it was all in fun going back and forth. What you are doing is assuming.
But since your vision is skewed by our interactions last from last night.

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

I'm frankly surprised.

No, your not.

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

I will admit my first post was a response to some really wild words you said to Sherri which I put "holding my tongue."

You are obviously looking for fault. Sister Sherri's postings back to me in this thread show nothing of what you claim here.

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

I think that and "this guy" are quite mild compared to what you've said in the last dozen posts... actually this entire thread.

So, that is how you hide what you were trying to do? By saying it is mild?
So, you are not going to do the right thing? You are going to play the victim?

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

But as it is, and as I've PM'd you, I'm sorry.

Sorry? You posted the above and even after you PMed me, and now you say sorry? Aren't you puzzled?

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

Between yourself and 3 others, we went down to a low-level of discussion and one I'm not proud of. Please forgive me. I'm sorry. In the future, if I can't be kind to you, I'll try to refrain from responding. That doesn't mean I will agree with you, or even won't debate with you, but if it ever goes this road again, if you have my word that I'm out.

Then why the above? Could you read what you posted at the top of this post? I'm puzzled.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Excuse me, but if you would of read Sister Sherri's posts to me we were it was all in fun going back and forth. What you are doing is assuming.
But since your vision is skewed by our interactions last from last night.




No, your not.




You are obviously looking for fault. Sister Sherri's postings back to me in this thread show nothing of what you claim here.




So, that is how you hide what you were trying to do? By saying it is mild?
So, you are not going to do the right thing? You are going to play the victim?



Sorry? You posted the above and even after you PMed me, and now you say sorry? Aren't you puzzled?




Then why the above? Could you read what you posted at the top of this post? I'm puzzled.

Sherri was gracious with you. That was the difference. And for that, I admire her. I don't get your insistence on last night, but I can't persuade you otherwise, You'll keep saying it over and over again. Yes, my words to your acidic posts were extremely mild, and in contrast with your posts beforehand aren't even mentionable.

Last night is another story, and I've apologized. Your response in PM was for me to re-read everything I wrote last night. I haven't heard one apology be uttered from your lips.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sri Ramakrishna, the guru of the swami Vivekanada, preached Jesus, and when the swami Vivekanada came to America in 1893 to attend the Parliament of World religions in Chicago, the swami Vivekanada spoke about Jesus Christ. Sri Ramakrishna taught that God was one yet as a big body of water is one, but had different tributaries from which people drew water, so was the One God. People draw water from one source, yet call the water by different names, so it is with God. The Apostle Paul warned of another Jesus, another spirit, and another Gospel. Mohammad, spoke about a Jesus that the Muslims hold in high regard, and yet he is not "the" Jesus.
Jehovah Witnesses, teach a Jesus who is an archangel who was sacrificed, and the LDS, teaches a Jesus who was born from a god who was once a man like you and I. All go by the name of Jesus, but have different messages, which lead to different outcomes for those who follow them. Clothe and feed the poor? Everyone from Muslims, to Buddhists, and Rabbinical Jews do good deeds, but their messages lead to eternal punishment.



Every teacher, preacher or rabbi has fallen into some sort of stupidity, from the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, to the Rabbis arrested in N.J. sting. Yet, Osho, and the Rabbis don't corner the market on being thought of as perverts and crooks. Reason being, they didn't have their own television shows. There are Rabbis who have been arrested for all manner of crimes as the same with the gurus and swamis. Yet, you as the man on the street never really hear about them. In other words, since we had given these televangelists a license to kill on the airwaves we reap the harvest of mockery. You see Ed, John Q Citizen didn't grow up in a United Pentecostal Church, and therefore can't tell the difference from the two fornicating Jimmies, from a One God Pentecostal on the blue screen. They have no idea what is right or wrong. If it wasn't such a Biblical issue scripturally, then Paul wasted his time writing out 2nd Corinthians 11:1-33. The apostle defended his churches against those who preached another Jesus and another Gospel. Paul wasn't trying to make the Body of Christ user friendly and a grotesque postmodern monster. He was trying to show the strait and narrow way.




Down here we have full blown sinners who want me to get them "Kill Your Television" bumper stickers. They fall out when I tell them that Christians fight me like wolves to defend television, and not cutting the hair of my daughters. The transvestites, and transgenders down here see the symbol of a dress and long hair, yet the ones I have spoken with are amazed that we Christians fight over these truths. You see Ed, these people weren't raised United Pentecostal, most weren't even raised in a religious home. They come from the most populated places in America, the inner cities. The inner cities where people need a real change from the televangelist garbage on the screen. You see, what they deal with every day is different from colgate smiles and baby soft hands of Joel Olsteen. Joel, and the rest of the t.v. preachers don't know what the people are going through or dealing with. Most of the people in the cities are dealing with new age, eastern philosophy, and microwavable mega church. For the most part the young people want militant faith. We are experiencing a lot of young men and women going into Islam, if you gave them your list of dos and don’ts, they would turn around and ask you what is your problem. We have a large group of Rastafarians down here who don't cut their hair, shave, and the women never have their dreads exposed or wear pants. They wear long sleeves, and no jewelry.
Our Hasidic Jews follow also the same pattern, of outer dress, long sleeves, no jewelry, women cover their heads, and wear ankle length dresses. In their homes they have no televisions. Ed, sinners and people of the world expect religious people to look and act spiritual. What shocks them is when you act and look they do.



The difference is Ed, John Q, expects godly looking sisters, and men. But it was Tammy's hysterical antics, and her colgate smiling husband's flamboyant spendings that blew John Q Public away. By the time they got to see Jimbo, crying and being dragged away in cuffs, old John Q was really flipping and tripping.

I have traveled all over America, and spent time talking to the man in the street. They want something real, and if they were to dedicate their lives to a religion, they wouldn't be spending most their time trying to figure out how to find loopholes, to adapt to their secular life.

I guess that job is for those disgruntles who were raised in the religion?



I'm more than happy for you to show us how the Vedic writings of the Gita, compare to the teachings of the Gospel.

Paul didn't quote Aratus to align himself with the Greek poet. Paul was telling those on the Areopagus that they were too superstitious, and through ignorance they worship deities. Paul quotes Aratus to show how much they were in false worship. Paul was at no time trying to quote the Phaenomena to align Jesus Christ with Zeus and how man is his physical offspring.

Ed, I'm very interested to see how Krishna and Arjuna in the Gita were plagiarized by Jesus and His apostles.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bump for Edward

"In him we live move and have our beings."

Was that used to attack the folks at Mars Hill or to relate with them?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

"In him we live move and have our beings."

Was that used to attack the folks at Mars Hill or to relate with them?

What are you trying to say?

[Tina]

Originally Posted by Esther

Boys, Y'all play nice before y'all get Esther really upset for the two of you hijacking her thread.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What are you trying to say?

EB, I wasn't trying to be esoteric or to speak with a hidden message. I was interacting with your point about Paul at Mars Hill and his use of the poets.

Paul didn't just use the poets to make fun of them and attack them, he used them to help explain to them Jesus Christ. Instead of launching into a tirade about their false gods, he used their own poets, and theology of Zeus to explain this Living Christ.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Tina

Boys, Y'all play nice before y'all get Esther really upset for the two of you hijacking her thread.

Yes, maa'm.