JP looking our way

[tv1a]

Are you suggesting the definition of apostolic is based in witchcraft? It appears the forum in question desires to keep the legalistic elements of religion, which Paul explicitly compares to witchcraft. I almost find you heee-larious.

Originally Posted by deadeye

The difference between this forum and Apostolic Preachers forum is that APF is actually comprised of a majority Apostolics........

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Who runs APF?

Isn't GKR still in charge of that?





M.

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by Jon Carl

I got this in an email today. The person who sent it said it was from a preachers internet forum. Is this the forum your talking about? The tone of the message worried me.



A picture of a sniper rifle was in the email with the words 'locked and loaded' over it along with "those guys (who have a disdain for separation) are putting a target on their chest."

So, the war (once again!) is over a particular person or group's definition of just what "holiness" is? More of the same old war that has crippled the advance of apostolica!

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Sounds like Reckhart.

And, no, the preachers at JP aren't like that. They will stand for what they believe but not in the way described in the email. That email lacked the Spirit's touch. Some of the Bible authors were quite harsh on those they considered to be teaching false doctrine but they left the judgement to God and didn't raise a call to fight their brothers and sisters in the body of Christ with such militant language.

There ARE some from the group you mentioned who are still exactly like that. They are intolerant, unChristian, (guised as holiness warriors) who will stoop to unChristian behavior in the name of Jesus to promote an agenda they believe is worth "dying" for.

Originally Posted by deadeye

The difference between this forum and Apostolic Preachers forum is that APF is actually comprised of a majority Apostolics........

That is YOUR opinion...and if those "apostolics," according to your definition, are not here, it is because THEY have chosen not to be.

[ShofarMan]

Originally Posted by Jon Carl

"I got this in an email today:

"The ‘Invitation to Disarm’ is becoming ‘A Call to Arms’

“Enough! I'm just not going to hold my peace anymore!”

I’ve heard it from no less than 6 preachers the last few days who are upset over certain things being preached in camps, statements being preached in conferences and meetings being held.

Ironically, these aren’t ‘nobodies’ but District Youth Presidents, Presbyters, District Youth Secretaries and prominent ministries. One of my ‘boys’ called me from preaching a camp where he was so upset that when I answered the phone his ‘greeting’ was a guttural cry through a crackling voice that said, “Brother *****, just tell me I better love this truth! Tell me this truth is worth dying for still!”

I make this prediction today… and don’t mind saying it openly… this whole ‘invitation to lay down our arms’ is going to end up biting those pushing us towards carnal social Christianity; The ‘Invitation to Disarm’ is going to become a ‘Call to Arms’ for a bunch of sincere young men!

One of the catchphrases is ‘Sir, we would see Jesus’. Mind you, I believe that verse in the Bible. However, many of those proclaiming it are saying, “Let’s see Him without these ‘issues’ in our way’. Brethren, without holiness NO man is going to SEE him!

We better keep these important issues… issues!

But this perpetual, pestering, disdain for separation being hurled around by a few prominent names is going to create an army they didn’t expect to fight. I genuinely feel that we’re going to see a bunch of 25 to 40 year old men stand to their feet and say, “NO MORE! ENOUGH! You’re not pushing me back any further and, rather, I’m going to fight harder than ever to protect what others are throwing down!”

Brethren… mark my words… this ‘Invitation to Disarm’ by a few compromising voices is going to create a ‘Call to Arms’ for an army of truth loving, passionate young Preachers."

A picture of a sniper rifle was in the email with the words 'locked and loaded' over it along with "those guys (who have a disdain for separation) are putting a target on their chest

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Sounds like Reckhart.

And, no, the preachers at JP aren't like that. They will stand for what they believe but not in the way described in the email. That email lacked the Spirit's touch. Some of the Bible authors were quite harsh on those they considered to be teaching false doctrine but they left the judgement to God and didn't raise a call to fight their brothers and sisters in the body of Christ with such militant language.

2 Tim 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Not sure how I feel about this being posted here but since it was it would not be fair to let Reckhart take the blame (he already has enough to answer for).
In was indeed a thread started by the new owner of APF.

[ManOfWord]

Another thought I have: Ever notice how the "preaching" is the "loudest" when it is to the choir? Truth is that it is too late.....the horse is already out of the barn.

There really is a small group who are holding on to the UC ways of dress standards. You know them by their volume and diminishing crowd. You'll also know them by their description of a "diminished" population in heaven.....basically everyone who is not like them!

[PreachingMoney]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

There really is a small group who are holding on to the UC ways of dress standards. You know them by their volume and diminishing crowd. You'll also know them by their description of a "diminished" population in heaven.....basically everyone who is not like them!

Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom

[mizpeh]

Maybe this is a good thing. They will be forced to give a scriptural account of the standards they call "holiness".

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by deadeye

The difference between this forum and Apostolic Preachers forum is that APF is actually comprised of a majority Apostolics........

No, I don't think so. I truly like some of the guys there, but it's pretty much a closed forum like CAF. A place where the boys can go and stroke one another's feathers when they get stirred.

I honestly have a difficult time taking any of that stuff seriously any more. And Jon Carl's mystery email didn't sound like R. in FL to me - whoever wrote that used a spell checker. R. doesn't use one.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by ShofarMan

Not sure how I feel about this being posted here but since it was it would not be fair to let Reckhart take the blame (he already has enough to answer for).
In was indeed a thread started by the new owner of APF.

Press him on the details of that alleged "phone call" he claims to have received. He''ll quickly curl up like an armadillo and run and go start another forum.

Also, ask him where he's going to get any of his "25 - 40 year old men." Last I looked they stopped signing up with this thing completely and have begun new lives and ministries elsewhere.

[tv1a]

I have a good feeling that more of us will be in heaven than of them.

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Another thought I have: Ever notice how the "preaching" is the "loudest" when it is to the choir? Truth is that it is too late.....the horse is already out of the barn.

There really is a small group who are holding on to the UC ways of dress standards. You know them by their volume and diminishing crowd. You'll also know them by their description of a "diminished" population in heaven.....basically everyone who is not like them!