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Old 08-08-2009, 08:41 AM
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Re: If You're Depressed and Despondent Get Some H

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. Our bodies are INCREDIBLE chemical factories. Our bodies are composed of and process Oxygen, Hydrogen, Calcium, Carbon, Sodium, Nitrogen, Potassium, Chlorine, Iron, etc. In God's perfect plan, we have glands and organs and brain matter that produce hormones to regulate the "balance" of these chemicals in the body.

Sometimes the "balance" gets out of whack (love that technical term). The regulatory system of the body can over or under stimulate the release of regulatory hormones and neurotransmitters. If you deny that this anomaly can exist in the human body, then you must also conclude that diabetes and muscular sclerosis are just figments of the imagination.
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.Tell that to Mary Tyler Moore and Neil Cavuto...Maam, Sir! Your illness is just a "spiritual" problem. If you pray hard enough your symptoms will be relieved.
It is most definately a spiritual problem. It isn't merely about prayer. It could be a matter of unforgiveness, rebellion, bitterness, unrepentance heart, or a host of other spiritual factors that cause depression. I have known people to get out of depression by repenting of fear. I have known people to get out of depression because they began to pray and read their Bible daily (Principle Involved in this Case: In His presence is fullness of Joy). We know from Scriptures that Moses, Job, David, Elijah and others experienced depression. We also know that God took them out of it! The Bible is the best psychiatry book in the world - bar none! For a Christian to think otherwise means they have simply bought into the ungodly philsophies of the world!

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.I believe God is able to heal. I believe in miracles! I've seen miracles happen before my very eyes! But God also gave men and women the gift of healing through in-depth study of His creation.
The Healing of the Soul comes from only one place - right relationship with God! God has provided the ultimate text book on how to heal it!

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.I'm so thankful for medical professionals who conduct their practice with great skill and for the many who use their knowledge to help the suffering.

Ever heard of medical missionaries who go to third world countries and do surgery on children with cleft palates enabling them to eat and smile and speak for the first time in their little lives??? AMAZING ministry!

Yes! God can heal them and many times He chooses to use human beings to be His hands and feet in this world to minister healing to His people.
As long as they stick to biological healing, praise God. If they get into "soul healing", the Word is the final answer!
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:45 AM
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Denying that there is a medical cause for mental ailments is just plain ignorance.
Sister, please, you really need to consider the writings of Thomas Szasz.

Sister for there to be a chemical imbalance and for it to be an illness, you would first have to run medical tests. Take blood, measure the balance of the "brain chemical?" Sister, please explain the medical testing which proves the chemical imbalance within the brain.

Sister, psychiatry uses so called-diagnostic terms to stigmatize and control people. For instance, when black slaves wanted to run away, they called it drapetomania. That was a legitimate diagnosis years ago. It wasn't disease, those slaves weren't ill, but simply just wanted to get away from slavery.
Hysteria was a diagnosis years ago and was used for women who didn't want to be subjugated by their husbands. If a person is sick there must be some objective science to it, they should be able to take blood, and give medical tests to prove illness. Typhoid fever is a disease, spring fever is not.

http://www.szasz.com/

Sis, please consider this.

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Old 08-08-2009, 08:56 AM
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There is real mental illness and it can remedy a normal person helpless and with a real feeling of hopelessness. Get yourself some help, for God sake if you know someone at that point drag'em to a clinic and have them seen by a competent professional.
http://www.szasz.com/

Please Brother people need Jesus, not Jung.

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Old 08-08-2009, 08:57 AM
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Here is a good book for those who like to do research on the subject "Blaming the Brain: The Truth About Drugs and Mental Health "

http://www.amazon.com/Blaming-Brain-...4846996&sr=8-1

She said something very interesting about ignorance too:

“A theory that is wrong is considered preferable to admitting our ignorance.” – Elliot Vallenstein, Ph.D.
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Here is a good book for those who like to do research on the subject "Blaming the Brain: The Truth About Drugs and Mental Health "

http://www.amazon.com/Blaming-Brain-...4846996&sr=8-1

She said something very interesting about ignorance too:

“A theory that is wrong is considered preferable to admitting our ignorance.” – Elliot Vallenstein, Ph.D.
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What does the bibe say about our minds. That is the answer and always will be. I've might have missed but I haven't read promsise of perfect bodily health.
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What does the bibe say about our minds. That is the answer and always will be. I've might have missed but I haven't read promsise of perfect bodily health.
My Brother, you haven't missed it, because it isn't there.

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What does the bibe say about our minds. That is the answer and always will be. I've might have missed but I haven't read promsise of perfect bodily health.

This is the logic of my former college classmate who's dorm room was across from mine and who gave me rides to work. He's about to be sentenced to many years in prison for this logic.

This point isn't debatable so I won't. But any person who reads this that is struggling, please ignore the religious condemnation and get help. There's nothing "weird" about you. You're ok and loved by God. Ignore the voices of Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar (Job's friends). Through the power of God's grace, seek help. There's nothing wrong with getting help.
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What does the bibe say about our minds. That is the answer and always will be. I've might have missed but I haven't read promsise of perfect bodily health.
Psalms 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and all that is within me,
bless his holy name!
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and forget not all his benefits,
3who forgives all your iniquity,
who heals all your diseases,
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Psalms 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and all that is within me,
bless his holy name!
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and forget not all his benefits,
3who forgives all your iniquity,
who heals all your diseases,
One of many, many promises.
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