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Old 08-09-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: UPCI Does Have Counseling Hotline

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The UPCI has something set up like Points of Refuge, counselors or those with like skills that any Lic. Minister can contact. The problem is that the UPCI is a small pond and most problems will become public knowledge.

As a Lic. Counselor I have a mandate and can be legal jeopardy if I disclose information given to me, I am doubtful if those in that ministry are bound by the same ethics and laws. But I think it to be a good step forward.
Keith, this is the program I was talking about. My brother is on the panel. He said those who need help do not call much. I don't know if its the stigma attached or they really don't trust the anonymity? It is a great leap forward and I applaud their efforts, however this prideful atmosphere works against those who are hurting. When u are told to just pray threw and a lot of pastors would even discourage counseling, you have a culture of fear.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:27 PM
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Keith, this is the program I was talking about. My brother is on the panel. He said those who need help do not call much. I don't know if its the stigma attached or they really don't trust the anonymity? It is a great leap forward and I applaud their efforts, however this prideful atmosphere works against those who are hurting. When u are told to just pray threw and a lot of pastors would even discourage counseling, you have a culture of fear.
Is this intended for the clergy only - it wasn't clear in the original post. It sounded to me like it was some kind of nationwide A.C.T.S. outreach.
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Old 08-09-2009, 05:38 PM
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Is this intended for the clergy only - it wasn't clear in the original post. It sounded to me like it was some kind of nationwide A.C.T.S. outreach.
Not sure, didn't ask. I'm no longer in the UPC loop, but the way it was described to me, it is open to anyone who needs or seeks counseling. Everything is done anonymously and r assigned to a specific counselor.
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There are a growing number in the UPC with degrees in psychology or some sort of counseling. I think the atmosphere is changing but probably not fast enough
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There are a growing number in the UPC with degrees in psychology or some sort of counseling. I think the atmosphere is changing but probably not fast enough
I agree, however the core doctrine remains stronger than ever. I really don't understand how these educated people can rationalize and reconcile such inconsistencies. In my mind, they would just have to "not care" or seek to "disconnect" from the reality of what they know to be true. I have friends who are very educated and believe in the Holy Hair doctrine? go figure. I don't understand.
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