Apostolic Standards

Cindysgreen · #1 08-12-2009, 04:40 PM

My daughter is in Public school and I would like to know where I could find something like an Apostolic Bylaws to show the school that she has rights to wear her skirt during PE and she has a right to wear a skirt and still tryout for sports. We as Apostolics know our starndards but the world doesnt understand. HELP PLS!

SeekingOne · #2 08-12-2009, 04:53 PM

Why does she need an Aposotlic document? I would think the US constitution or something might be of more use! So she wears the regulation PE wear with a skirt over it, what's it to them?

Maybe time to find a new school or school her at home?

Seriously, I hope that you can go to the school in all humility, so they don't feel threatened, and explain why it is important that your daughter wear a skirt over the uniform. If they feel like you are understanding of their restrictions, they may allow your restrictions along side theirs.

If you don't go with a "it's us against you" instead of a "we're with you, we have standards too" then it might go over a tad better for you.

*AQuietPlace* · #3 08-12-2009, 05:03 PM

There are no such Apostolic bylaws as far as I know.... unless you want to use the UPC manual. But a letter from your pastor to the school should do the trick.

MissBrattified · #4 08-12-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindysgreen

My daughter is in Public school and I would like to know where I could find something like an Apostolic Bylaws to show the school that she has rights to wear her skirt during PE and she has a right to wear a skirt and still tryout for sports. We as Apostolics know our starndards but the world doesnt understand. HELP PLS!

You don't need any piece of paper, if that's what you believe. You can simply write a letter to the principal, and/or the school superintendent stating that your daughters needs a religious exception, since you don't wear pants. That is, they can't force her to dress out for PE. They can prevent her from participating in some activities, if safety is an issue in their estimation.

I hope that along with being feminine and wearing a skirt, you are also concerned with modesty, and making sure that during the playing of sports, there's no immodesty. Modesty is just as important, if not more important than, femininity. It isn't modest to fall during play and have a skirt fly up.

Safety is a factor as well, and the school may reasonably elect that your daughter cannot participate in some sports in a skirt for safety reasons. I don't disagree with them, if that is their consensus. There are some things that cannot be modestly or safely done in a skirt, and if you are going to live that conviction, it should be understood that it does limit a woman's activities.

Are you completely opposed to culottes or gauchos as well? They can be made with flaps in the front or back to look like a skirt.

http://www.myculottes.com/skirlots.html

*AQuietPlace* · #5 08-12-2009, 08:59 PM

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Are you completely opposed to culottes or gauchos as well? They can be made with flaps in the front or back to look like a skirt.

http://www.myculottes.com/skirlots.html

Or she could just wear shorts under her skirt. Biking shorts work great and provide modesty.

meBNme · #6 08-12-2009, 09:02 PM

There was a limited production of Thompson chain reference Bibles produced for the UPC that had just what you are looking for in them, its also found on the UPCI website.

I did a copy/paste of the following from the UPCI.org site.

PUBLIC SCHOOL ACTIVITIES

We disapprove of school students attending shows, dances, dancing classes, theaters, engaging in school activities against their religious scruples, and wearing gymnasium clothes which immodestly expose the body.

We disapprove of school students being forced to take coeducational classes which involve boys and girls being mixed together in swimming, calesthenics, baseball, and other mixed athletics while clothed in ungodly attire which immodestly exposes the body.

We disapprove of school students being forced to take any classes in which, under the guise of health classes, sex education is taught coeducationally or films or lectures are given that promote amoral or unnatural behavior.

We disapprove of school students being forced to be taught by or listen to those who promote or advocate sexual activity of any kind other than that within the bonds of the marriage relationship of husband and wife.

RELIGIOUS HOLIDAYS

The annual conference is declared to be an international religious holiday for all members, and all members are urged to attend. Furthermore, since the founding of the church occurred on the Day of Pentecost, Pentecost Sunday is also a recognized religious holiday.

Public schools are required under freedom of religion to allow children to follow the guidelines that are stated by an official, recognized religious organization in writing.

This should be all you need. Just present it to the Gym teacher, principle etc.

MissBrattified · #7 08-12-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

Or she could just wear shorts under her skirt. Biking shorts work great and provide modesty.

My girls usually wear skorts or gauchos. Shorts or leggings under a loose skirt work, too.

meBNme · #8 08-12-2009, 09:06 PM

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My girls usually wear skorts or gauchos. Shorts or leggings under a loose skirt work, too.

Not if that violates ones personal convictions.
If it does, we should not compromise just to fit in.

If it does not, then it may well be a non issue.

another argument, another time.

MissBrattified · #9 08-12-2009, 09:20 PM

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Not if that violates ones personal convictions.
If it does, we should not compromise just to fit in.

Of course not. I would never suggest otherwise.

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If it does not, then it may well be a non issue.

another argument, another time.

No need for another time...what we do in our home is our business, and others likewise. I'm not interested in talking anyone out of their convictions.

meBNme · #10 08-13-2009, 12:52 AM

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Of course not. I would never suggest otherwise.

No need for another time...what we do in our home is our business, and others likewise. I'm not interested in talking anyone out of their convictions.

For some reason I didnt see the "My" in your post. All I saw was ......

"girls usually wear skorts or gauchos. Shorts or leggings under a loose skirt work, too."

As if you were suggesting the OP allow the same even if she had not previosly.

I'm sorry, I misread and didnt realize you were just stating your personal stance.

Thus the reason for pointing out that may not be good for all.