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Old 08-28-2009, 12:23 PM
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Sleeve length, facial hair, ear rings, etc. You know, the long list of forbiddens. I'm not trying to start a fight here, I just honestly wonder why it's even an issue. It causes SO much division and is a HUGE stumbling block to those outside the faith.
Thank you for explaining what you were talking about...I don't always catch on! lol...
I do think it is ok to express how we believe...and whatever we believe but I do not think we gain anything by fussing and fighting over scripture.

I hope I am making sense. For example...I have never cut my hair I feel that is what the Lord requires and have said that HOWEVER I am not making fun or those that feel different than I do. Beards were worn in Bible days only someone very shallow would say otherwise...for many years it has been a custom not to wear beards in many circles. My father in law was one of the greatest christian men you could ever meet and he wore a mustashe. It was his custom in his country. Beards can become a symbol of pride...so the heart plays a great part in our life.
We all know jewelry was worn in the Bible...Sarah our mother in the faith wore it...Rebecca was given her jewels...and on and on however we do know that many times it became a downfall to God's people and PRIDE caused them to err...
In the circles I mostly visit I see watches that are really not just a time piece they are worn to impress and cost LOTS of money...pins on peoples dresses that would never wear a necklace...and on and on...so we could go on all day and for months and years deciding what is right or wrong but somewhere down the road a person has to have THEIR own experience with God and decide for themselves what God requires for them.

Shoes of all kinds of hides...belts....purses....perfumes that cost way up there... Churches and Homes that cost millions...cars that are beyond words...

So dear ones remember IN THE LIGHT OF ETERNITY GOD JUDGES US BY OUR WHOLE LIFESTYLE...Maybe we should read about heros of the past that did great works for God...one of the greatest virtures was humility.



Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
(Matthew 5:5 NIV)





Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle
and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
(Matthew 11:29 NIV)





Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the
greatest in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:4 NIV)

Of course the apostles and saints of the first century church also commended humility, as the writings of Paul, James and Peter attest:

Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with
one another in love. (Ephesians 4:2 NIV)

Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
(James 4:10 NIV)

All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another,
because, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the
humble." (1 Peter 5:5 NIV)



That does not mean God wants us to live in a shack, drive a car that is falling apart however we must remember all earthly things that brings pride to the human heart are ashes only...and live according to that standard.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:26 PM
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I know you're not asking anyone to change and I agree with everything you said. I know I'm asking for a Utopia that will never exist, but I honestly wonder what pentecostalism would look like without the stumbling block of manmade, legalistic rules.

By the way, do you have the $350 yet for the fellow that's clothing the poor?


Not yet...But that little pastor believes it is coming...my son called and said the pastor already had everything ready by faith to take to the people.
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Old 08-28-2009, 12:28 PM
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Please pray for me. I do want to be kind to everyone.
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Sister Janice, if I lived in Brazil I would come to be with you guys everywhere you spoke. I could listen to you and read your posts all day! (Lots of ooo's and xxxx's) Thanks for your thoughtful post and the truth it holds.
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Most of the cons have already left. I think the better question would be what will happen when the moderates leave?
Well-- First, Renda and I would make sure that you and Abi are tied tightly into your AFF seats with duck tape. You two aren't going anywhere... and a few others would be tied to their seats too... They know who they are-- the formerly moderate but now labeled the ultra con crowd of AFF... I just don't have time to make a list.
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Sister Janice, if I lived in Brazil I would come to be with you guys everywhere you spoke. I could listen to you and read your posts all day! (Lots of ooo's and xxxx's) Thanks for your thoughtful post and the truth it holds.
Thank you dear friend. Wish we could just sit down and share...love and blessings.
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It's a pretty sad day when I am considered conservative.

Seriously!
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It's a pretty sad day when I am considered conservative.

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Your not conservative your just a CON!!!
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It's a pretty sad day when I am considered conservative.

Seriously!
Maybe you're even now an AFF Ultra Con.

Apparently I'm now an AFF Ultra Con... that's what someone told me the other day that I was.... Isn't that hilarious?

I used to be what Matt labeled a conservative moderate I think. Or was it a moderate conservative?

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If I am an ultracon, Tina is a freaky-con!
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