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09-12-2009, 06:56 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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You did know that Rick Ross is Pro31's uncle, right?
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Who woulda thunk it!
http://www.rickrossdeeperthanrap.com/
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09-12-2009, 06:57 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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Ya NO not that one.
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09-12-2009, 06:59 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
How would I define AFF?
America's Future Farmers.
OK, maybe that is FFA -Future Farmers of America.
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09-12-2009, 07:21 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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yeah, neither of those Rick's. Completely different.
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09-12-2009, 07:36 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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Thanks for the apology but I never questioned your intention. I certainly think there could have been a much nicer (not to mention factual) way of telling the people you were addressing.
At the very least you could have shown balance.
Not all are "looking to leave". There are those here looking to join the UPC or similar conservative Christian churches. Some are fleeing a Christianity that they feel is neutered. Others are Oneness Pentecostal and know that we as other groups are maturing and working through things within our churches.
Sorry Pro31, but that "chapter" does not reflect myself nor many others in the UPC. It did make me want to call Rick Ross for a deprogramming appointment and set up an exit strategy.  |
Hoovie,
I need to ask, what did I say that was not factual? As I stated in my earlier post, we were specifically talking about why people would use screen names and hide their identity in online discussion boards. I never stated nor implied that it was the underground railroad for escaping the UPC, simply that it was a safe place for people to air their concerns and questions.
I personally find AFF a warm and accepting place to come and fellowship with people who understand where I come from. I didn't write a chapter, only a paragraph, and I felt that I was truthful (factual) as I could be.
I am sure that for every member there is a slightly different reason for hanging out here. I gave my perspective, and the perspectives of those with whom I have spoken to about it.
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"You will be hated for my sake-Just remember that it should be for MY sake and not YOURS-
Do NOT act in such a way as to be offensive, and then blame it on me"
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09-12-2009, 07:59 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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Hoovie,
I need to ask, what did I say that was not factual? As I stated in my earlier post, we were specifically talking about why people would use screen names and hide their identity in online discussion boards. I never stated nor implied that it was the underground railroad for escaping the UPC, simply that it was a safe place for people to air their concerns and questions.
I personally find AFF a warm and accepting place to come and fellowship with people who understand where I come from. I didn't write a chapter, only a paragraph, and I felt that I was truthful (factual) as I could be.
I am sure that for every member there is a slightly different reason for hanging out here. I gave my perspective, and the perspectives of those with whom I have spoken to about it.
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I did change it to "more factual" before you posted this. 
This is highly subjective and assumes leaving legalism is the preferred goal of lurkers who are UPC members.
"...because this organization leans to the legalistic side, many of the “lurkers” are looking to leave the organization..."
Fact is, we have had a few AFF members and lurkers (that we know about) leave the UPC - some become more conservative and some more liberal. We also have some who have joined the UPC.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-12-2009, 08:08 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
I think it must be acknowledged that the last couple years have seen more leave the UPC to embrace greater conservatism than those who left to become more liberal.
Of course this only means anything in regards to this thread if one equates standards and conservatism with legalism.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-12-2009, 08:11 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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I did change it to "more factual" before you posted this.
This is highly subjective and assumes leaving legalism is the preferred goal of lurkers and UPC members.
"...because this organization leans to the legalistic side, many of the “lurkers” are looking to leave the organization..."
Fact is, we have had a few AFF members and lurkers (that we know about) leave the UPC - some become more conservative and some more liberal. We also have some who have joined the UPC. |
How is this a fact?
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09-12-2009, 08:16 PM
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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09-12-2009, 08:17 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: How would you define AFF?
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I think it must be acknowledged that the last couple years have seen more leave the UPC to embrace greater conservatism than those who left to become more liberal.
Of course this only means anything in regards to this thread if one equates standards and conservatism with legalism.
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That's like saying there are more conservatives in DC based on the number of conservatives that were there today. I think the numbers who have left and are more "liberal" over a statistically significant period of time, would eclipse the number that ran away to become the new wrestling federation.
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