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[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Your explanation of Heb. 13:7,17,21 and other scriptures that teach the same? The twisting is that you need NO one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God not man placed the ministry in the Church to reject the ministry is to reject God can't have one without the other.
How shall they hear without a preacher?

Ok, now I know that you aren't even reading what I write, because I addressed that very thing in the post you quoted.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Ok, now I know that you aren't even reading what I write, because I addressed that very thing in the post you quoted.

My question to you and it is personal how many churches would exist if everyone has followed your pattern of church attendance and faithfulness? Just a question not a indictment?

YOU know the answer.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

if you don't have a preacher in your life to Hell you will go!

That's a new one, to me. Have to add that to the list of requirements, I guess.

1. Repent
2. Be baptized in Jesus name
3. Be filled with the spirit
4. Speak in tongues
5. Look holy
6. Not believe in trinitarianism
7. Have a preacher in my life

Missing anything?

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

My question to you and it is personal how many churches would exist if everyone has followed your pattern of church attendance and faithfulness? Just a question not a indictment?

YOU know the answer.

I just can't win here. To be honest. I am in a holding pattern. I am looking for some different, a house church type situation. But until I find that, I do visit a local church. I am criticized because my attendance is sporadic, and yet, if I didn't go at all, I would be criticized for the lack of fellowship/accountability.

I am not interested in being a member of an institution, I am interested in being a member of the body.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Timmy

That's a new one, to me. Have to add that to the list of requirements, I guess.

1. Repent
2. Be baptized in Jesus name
3. Be filled with the spirit
4. Speak in tongues
5. Look holy
6. Not believe in trinitarianism
7. Have a preacher in my life

Missing anything?

Have a christmas tree, listen to Christian Rock music, watch television

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Timmy

That's a new one, to me. Have to add that to the list of requirements, I guess.

1. Repent
2. Be baptized in Jesus name
3. Be filled with the spirit
4. Speak in tongues
5. Look holy
6. Not believe in trinitarianism
7. Have a preacher in my life

Missing anything?

Sorry Timmy you would not know anything about the other things you mnetioned without a preacher OR are you one of those that Gabriel and Micheal deliver the dead sea scrolls on your front lawn every morning?
How shall they hear without a preacher? THAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE! Try reading it sometimes.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Sorry Timmy you would not know anything about the other things you mnetioned without a preacher OR are you one of those that Gabriel and Micheal deliver the dead sea scrolls on your front lawn every morning?
How shall they hear without a preacher? THAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE! Try reading it sometimes.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

are you one of those that Gabriel and Micheal deliver the dead sea scrolls on your front lawn every morning?

No, that would be silly. They don't both deliver them! They take turns!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Timmy

No, that would be silly. They don't both deliver them! They take turns!

Then I stand corrected!

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Sorry Timmy you would not know anything about the other things you mnetioned without a preacher OR are you one of those that Gabriel and Micheal deliver the dead sea scrolls on your front lawn every morning?
How shall they hear without a preacher? THAT IS IN YOUR BIBLE! Try reading it sometimes.

But seriously. You really think that scripture is saying that I need a preacher to help me with my list? That I can't get it from the Bible for myself? I can't work out my own salvation with fear and trembling? That all scripture is not profitable for doctrine etc., unless a preacher explains it to me?

Your suggestion to read the Bible is a good one. A little self-contradictory (what good would it do, if I need a preacher to tell me what to believe?), but good.

BTW, just for the record, I do have a preacher in my life. Must not be a very good one, though. He doesn't say anything about most of the items on the list I gave above. I guess my blood will be on his hands!