I'm for biblical order, but God has used and will continue to use women for His work, and that is just a fact. To state that women are excluded from the ministry is obviously an extra-biblical interpretation.
Are there women who are overly masculine, strident or out of place? Sure. Maybe they weren't truly called, and just thought they were. Are there WAY more men who should have been saints instead of preachers, and spend their lives being lords over God's heritage? Yes.
It's a matter of lining up priorities, knowing the voice of God, living right to the best of your knowledge and ability, and let others heed the call without your interference.
I'm generally suspicious of men who get all panicky about a woman expounding scriptures. It really is bothersome that ANY Christian, male or female, would want to stop any OTHER Christian, male or female, from sharing their thoughts about God and His Word. Furthermore, caution is thrown to the wind, and there is a disregard for the fact that God can speak through ANY vessel He chooses.
Women should attend their biblically laid out roles of husband, home and children first and foremost, but that doesn't mean God will not call any woman to something in addition to that. Especially single women. And a woman who was called as a single girl doesn't lose that calling when she marries, anymore than a man does when HE marries; the dynamics may change, but the calling is still the same.
I know many more men who neglect their families and God-given male roles in deference to their ministerial calling than I do women. IMO, men should be teaching other men how to be good husbands and fathers, and let the older women teach the younger women how to be feminine and godly. Men have a full time job pleasing God, their wives, and their children; there is absolutely zero time for them to pick on women who have made sacrifices to serve God to the best of their ability.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I'm for biblical order, but God has used and will continue to use women for His work, and that is just a fact. To state that women are excluded from the ministry is obviously an extra-biblical interpretation.
Are there women who are overly masculine, strident or out of place? Sure. Maybe they weren't truly called, and just thought they were. Are there WAY more men who should have been saints instead of preachers, and spend their lives being lords over God's heritage? Yes.
It's a matter of lining up priorities, knowing the voice of God, living right to the best of your knowledge and ability, and let others heed the call without your interference.
I'm generally suspicious of men who get all panicky about a woman expounding scriptures. It really is bothersome that ANY Christian, male or female, would want to stop any OTHER Christian, male or female, from sharing their thoughts about God and His Word. Furthermore, caution is thrown to the wind, and there is a disregard for the fact that God can speak through ANY vessel He chooses.
Women should attend their biblically laid out roles of husband, home and children first and foremost, but that doesn't mean God will not call any woman to something in addition to that. Especially single women. And a woman who was called as a single girl doesn't lose that calling when she marries, anymore than a man does when HE marries; the dynamics may change, but the calling is still the same.
I know many more men who neglect their families and God-given male roles in deference to their ministerial calling than I do women. IMO, men should be teaching other men how to be good husbands and fathers, and let the older women teach the younger women how to be feminine and godly. Men have a full time job pleasing God, their wives, and their children; there is absolutely zero time for them to pick on women who have made sacrifices to serve God to the best of their ability.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
it should only take a few minutes to tell if anyone is called or not reguardless of sex . i have been told by mnay men they were called of god after i heard them i seen they must have called thereself. a god called preacher has a message and an annoniting in their life from god to back it up ...MALE OR FEMALE . if they dont have to annoniting backing them up i wont give them my time to hear them ..MALE OR FEMALE . i figure if god chooses to use them and you can tell if he has i will listen and enjoy.he did use a jackass to speak ..
it should only take a few minutes to tell if anyone is called or not reguardless of sex . i have been told by mnay men they were called of god after i heard them i seen they must have called thereself. a god called preacher has a message and an annoniting in their life from god to back it up ...MALE OR FEMALE . if they dont have to annoniting backing them up i wont give them my time to hear them ..MALE OR FEMALE . i figure if god chooses to use them and you can tell if he has i will listen and enjoy.he did use a jackass to speak ..
..and only to his master who was beating him; the animal did NOT go
preach the WORD to anyone., I doubt he ever spoke again, if it did,
I haven't read it anywhere in the Bible, lol
g'night!
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..and only to his master who was beating him; the animal did NOT go
preach the WORD to anyone., I doubt he ever spoke again, if it did,
I haven't read it anywhere in the Bible, lol
g'night!
Preaching the Word to 1 or 100--doesn't matter, it's still preaching.
The point is simply that God continues to do whatever He wants, and we have a biblical record of Him using women for His plan, His purpose, and His glory.
I'm not keen on women pastors, but ANY Christian can preach the Word as long as they are submitted to God, submitted to their authorities and submitted to their husband, as the case may be.
What people forget is that men have authorities over them as well--so if a man who is NOT the pastor is preaching a service, according to the same logic used against women, he would then be usurping authority over that pastor who is HIS authority. See how twisted that is? The premise is that women can't teach or preach to men because that would be usurping authority over them. That can't possibly be the correct interpretation, unless young men or men who aren't in leadership are forbidden to preach to THEIR authorities as well.
Obviously "usurping authority" needs to interpreted differently, or you can't avoid that conflict.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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