My Name is on www.wedeclare.org - Page 2

freeatlast · #11 09-29-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Oh I am a teacher that loves the word and people. Don't make a rule of casting my pearls though.

I am on the road to the great convention in St. Louis. I have not been here in a number of months and won't be back for a while.

You all can now rend, chew and mangle me ....

I THINK HE JUST CALLED YOU A PIG. Now thats nice.

Pressing-On · #12 09-29-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Oh I am a teacher that loves the word and people. Don't make a rule of casting my pearls though.

I am on the road to the great convention in St. Louis. I have not been here in a number of months and won't be back for a while.

You all can now rend, chew and mangle me ....

Oh I see - soooooo - I'm a swine for asking you?

I really think that it is important to teach the principle, because I'm unsure of it and I think if you were really sure of it yourself, you would have put forth your thoughts as well.

Nitehawk013 · #13 09-29-2009, 08:23 AM

I say good for you Papa. It's good that there are still at leats 300+ men who stand for somethign in the UPC.

When the majority of the UPC and other organizations that continue to get into bed with teh charismatic crowd end up as nothing more than Vinyard churches falsely claiming to be Apostolic, it is good to know that there will still be at least some men who have the guts to preach that we be seperate from the world.

They may not be correct on all accounts, embracing a sliver of legalism in many cases, but that is far less dangerous and destructive than the alternative.

Esther · #14 09-29-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

5. Holiness

It has always been a part and parcel of our essence. Not exclusive to, but it has been our identity.

I agree holiness is an essential part of any christians life, for without holiness you can not see God.

However, modesty standards is NOT holiness.

Holiness is much deeper and more important than dress standards, that ebb and flow with the times.

freeatlast · #15 09-29-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Oh I am a teacher that loves the word and people. Don't make a rule of casting my pearls though.

I am on the road to the great convention in St. Louis. I have not been here in a number of months and won't be back for a while.

You all can now rend, chew and mangle me ....

Hey Scott, General conference is going on in St Louis too.

Maybe we'll see you there.

Sam · #16 09-29-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast

I THINK HE JUST CALLED YOU A PIG. Now thats nice.

don't some of the cons call non-cons "pigs and apes"?

freeatlast · #17 09-29-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

don't some of the cons call non-cons "pigs and apes"?

They do refer to their preaching as "skinning the hogs"

That is one of the most disrespectful things I have ever heard a preacher say,

and one preacher that has said it, is one of the ten founders of wedeclare.org

deltaguitar · #18 09-29-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

5. Holiness

It has always been a part and parcel of our essence. Not exclusive to, but it has been our identity.

I agree with this. The people of this movement care deeply about these traditions.

I believe a lot of the reasons the UPC doesn't want to change is because they fear where it will lead to.

The identity of the UPC is threatened if they start to drop certain standards. See, they can drop organized sports, tv, movies, and many other traditions because they weren't supported with scripture.

But the hair and pants issue has been defended time and time again as being scriptural. If they were to drop this issue they would have to say that they were wrong and by admitting wrong then ALL doctrines would then come into question because how can those who have truth be wrong. It is a never ending cycle.

Plus there has been propaganda for years about what happens when people leave the movement. Some of it is true but most of it is way off base and can be confirmed with just a phone call.

Raven · #19 09-29-2009, 08:37 AM

Am I the only one having trouble reading clearly the statements of wedeclare.org? This posting by PapaBear makes me wonder what they are saying. Perhaps it's all a misunderstanding due to some poor writing and composition?
ie: "In addition, these things are your Mothers, Grandmothers, and the very image of people who have done so many wonderful things." What??? Someone translate please!

Raven

*AQuietPlace* · #20 09-29-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Papabear

Oh I am a teacher that loves the word and people. Don't make a rule of casting my pearls though.

I am on the road to the great convention in St. Louis. I have not been here in a number of months and won't be back for a while.

You all can now rend, chew and mangle me ....

This attitude frustrates me no end.

Anyone who disagrees with someone's interpretation is swine.