My Name is on www.wedeclare.org

[Nitehawk013]

There is not unity because light has no unity with darkness. At some point, people have to start defining what is light and what is dark.

Many of us think that when peopel decide they want to dress and act just like the sinners do, they are playing in the dark. Why would we not refuse to hold hands in unity with that sort of living?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

It would have been SO much more impressive if you had listed THESE scriptures in reference to holiness, and it is SO revealing that you did not:

Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

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Why not create a document that will serve to unify, and emphasize what we ALL can agree on?
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Wasn't that the intention of the original fundamental doctrine statement?
And wasn't it worded the way it was so that one-steppers and three-steppers could join together without doubting the "salvation" of one another?

And what was wrong with the original holiness statement of 1945?

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

There is not unity because light has no unity with darkness. At some point, people have to start defining what is light and what is dark.

Many of us think that when peopel decide they want to dress and act just like the sinners do, they are playing in the dark. Why would we not refuse to hold hands in unity with that sort of living?

I've asked this question numerous times and no one has ever answered it. Do you want to answer it?

How did Christians 100-200 years ago (think Little House on the Prairie) dress differently than the sinners around them? If it is NECESSARY for Christians to dress differently than sinners, how did they accomplish that?

If your point is that Christians shouldn't dress in immodest, revealing clothing, you would be correct. But many people who don't follow "the dress codes" don't dress in immodest, revealing clothing.

Modesty should be the clarion call, not "we gotta be different!"

[KWSS1976]

O so now we have if you don't have the UPC look you are a sinner....O this just keeps getting better....

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

There is not unity because light has no unity with darkness. At some point, people have to start defining what is light and what is dark.

Many of us think that when peopel decide they want to dress and act just like the sinners do, they are playing in the dark. Why would we not refuse to hold hands in unity with that sort of living?

DARKNESS has to do with SIN. Interesting that Galatians is the most familiar list of sins (works of the flesh) in the New Testament, yet in creating a document that everyone should sign and agree on, it was left out in favor of, "Just don't let your women cut their hair and wear jewelry, makeup or immodest clothing."

That is imbalanced.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I've asked this question numerous times and no one has ever answered it. Do you want to answer it?

How did Christians 100-200 years ago (think Little House on the Prairie) dress differently than the sinners around them? If it is NECESSARY for Christians to dress differently than sinners, how did they accomplish that?

That can't be answered because they didn't. As stated so many times, holiness is not in how women dress.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

DARKNESS has to do with SIN. Interesting that Galatians is the most familiar list of sins (works of the flesh) in the New Testament, yet in creating a document that everyone should sign and agree on, it was left out in favor of, "Just don't let your women cut their hair and wear jewelry, makeup or immodest clothing."

That is imbalanced.

You are so nice. I'd have said ignorant. It's a good thing I didn't.

[Nitehawk013]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

DARKNESS has to do with SIN. Interesting that Galatians is the most familiar list of sins (works of the flesh) in the New Testament, yet in creating a document that everyone should sign and agree on, it was left out in favor of, "Just don't let your women cut their hair and wear jewelry, makeup or immodest clothing."

That is imbalanced.

And I thinkyou know very well that no one is substituting anything. The list in Galatians is preached against plenty. You are trying to defelct. No one is saying someone can live in those sins all they want as long as they "look the part". You know that.

And how does one dress differnt or like a sinner? Easy. Have you looked at how trashy and sickening people in the world dress? Pretty easy to say since you are suppsoed to be a Christian....dress contrary to them.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I've asked this question numerous times and no one has ever answered it. Do you want to answer it?

How did Christians 100-200 years ago (think Little House on the Prairie) dress differently than the sinners around them? If it is NECESSARY for Christians to dress differently than sinners, how did they accomplish that?

People are being different just for the sake of being different. That is incorrect motivation, and leads to pride, hypocrisy, a departure from scriptural principle, and ultimately, confusion.

We're supposed to obey the Word. And IF and WHEN that causes us to stand out from the world, (which it often will), then we are not to be FEARFUL of that difference. That doesn't mean we pursue difference just so we will stand out from the world. The motivation has to be an adherence to the Word, and not just preservation of a certain "look."

I've noticed some very important and prominent names missing from www.wedeclare.org. That is ALSO very telling and revealing, and we would all do well to take note of who, in leadership, did NOT sign the document.