My Name is on www.wedeclare.org

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by yisraelm

This is ridiculous... I have heard anti- Holiness folks use this many times... get a new one.

If you are walking through the mall ALONE would anyone recognize that you are a "holiness folk?"

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by yisraelm

Where have you been??? My 4 year old daughter can even see worldly people dress like trash.

That's the problem with a worldview that equates "wordly people" to their clothes, instead of their spiritual condition. The average PTA mom, Laura Bush and CEO lady doesn't dress like "trash." They may not be welcome at your church, but it certainly is tasteful attire and becoming of a lady.

These generalizations drive me absolutely bonkers, bro!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Sis Elaine

My late husband preached "Smile, It Could Save a Soul"

He taught that our actions and spirits were crucial in being a holy Christian.

And that is really what the Apostle Peter is saying when he says that our REAL adorning is not our hair, clothes, and jewelry but our attitude (ref 1 Peter 3:1-6)

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by Sam

And that is really what the Apostle Peter is saying when he says that our REAL adorning is not our hair, clothes, and jewelry but our attitude (ref 1 Peter 3:1-6)

Exactly. We use his verse to mean exactly the opposite of what he intended. We use it to focus on the outward, and his entire point was that the outward is not what is most important. Isn't that ironic?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Some see the world through labels - and what a blinder that is! Blind guides! You can rest easy knowing that anything not in agreement with your viewpoint is "charismatic" (envision: demonic, evil, pseudo-spiritual people who sleep together in wild orgies, collect huge offerings, and hang out in exotic islands), or "emerging" (picture, ripped up denim jeans, no move of the Spirit, theology lacking a hell, etc) or "lost" (those dirty, rotten sinners that we want to be nothing like). Always extremes. It's more comfortable that way. Marginalize your opponents. Don't bother wrestling with the truth of the matter. Put them in these stigmatized groups, no matter how much they don't fit, and then think good of yourself for being the super hero. That's how novels are made -- the bad guys characteristics are exagerrated to help make the distinction of the good guy. Take the spandex off and put the Word in your hands, looking at it with honesty, not concerned with the results, and without fear. I think you'll do much better.

I remember reading about someone like that who prayed, "I thank thee that I am not as other men..." (Luke 18:9-14)

[SOUNWORTHY]

I don't disagree with the statements in We declare but not sure why Popabear felt it necessary to post them on AFF other than to stir up strife. I do disagree with his attitude as well as the attitude of many here including mine at times. I too will be at the General Conference this time. You won't have a problem finding me, I'd say there won't be many of us with beards. If you see me just walk up and say "Hi Don".

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by yisraelm

Where have you been??? My 4 year old daughter can even see worldly people dress like trash.

Before reading anyone elses comments, do you happen to own any of RR's holiness books for children? The mother characters tells one of her kids that "God made them look funny" when her daughter questions why a man would have long(er) hair.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Sis Elaine

My late husband preached "Smile, It Could Save a Soul"

He taught that our actions and spirits were crucial in being a holy Christian.

Sis. Elaine, you spirit bears witness.....you are a child of God!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

If you are walking through the mall ALONE would anyone recognize that you are a "holiness folk?"

probably not unless they saw me smile at someone, or pray for someone, or help someone carry something, or saw me buy somebody's lunch, or speak a word of encouragement to someone,etc.

In my opinion, that is "true" holiness, not the superficial, outward stuff.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

If you are walking through the mall ALONE would anyone recognize that you are a "holiness folk?"