Post UPCI Gen Supt. Election Questions - Page 4

Sarah · #31 10-08-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but I personally don't think God has anything to do with our political/religious organizations.

I'm not offended at your opinion Sam.....but I think you are dead wrong.

When any group comes together for the furtherance of the gospel of Christ, in faith believing, I think God is very much interested. And will act accordingly.

Politics? Of course they're there. Always have been and always will be. But some people are serious about getting the mind of Christ.

Kim Komando · #32 10-08-2009, 10:13 AM

Once again, I don't doubt your internal sources or whether he was checked, miss brat, nor doubt he was checked. However, in any political public declarations carry more weight than my or your ruminations. Maybe that is why CC1 asked if a PUBLIC declaration was made. Nor is it unfair that if a leader has acted in a carnal, divisive, and politically agenda driven way with political aspirations in sight that there will be some Monday morning quarterbacking.

rgcraig · #33 10-08-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by U376977

What twitter???

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Rumor has it that DB sent out a Twitter just prior to the voting that he would allow his name to run, if voters would not re-affirm KH. He had not made any commitment prior to that twitter. Surprises me.... I could have believed it of others but surprised that DB would do that....

I believe she came back later and apologized for posting "a rumor". It wasn't confirmed or denied.

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

I apologize to all for my post in the "End of Haneywood" thread regarding the rumor that DB sent out a Twitter regarding the election. My info came from a VERY reliable source - but I personally did not receive or read the Twitter comment. Those of you who mentioned it are right. I should not have posted it because I didn't see it myself.

I did state in my post that I had a hard time believing it of DB - and I still do. But I was told it as fact.

Please forgive me for posting without thinking... I posted and then stepped away from the computer for a while to take care of business. I immediately regretted my post, but it was too late to delete it.

Thank you for your understanding.

Digging4Truth · #34 10-08-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

I'm not offended at your opinion Sam.....but I think you are dead wrong.

When any group comes together for the furtherance of the gospel of Christ, in faith believing, I think God is very much interested. And will act accordingly.

Politics? Of course they're there. Always have been and always will be. But some people are serious about getting the mind of Christ.

I think we often blame our organizations on coming together for the furtherance of the Gospel of Christ but, in the end, they only serve to divide the body.

Continual splits & schisms because our beliefs aren't exactly alike.

I think Sam is dead right.

Baron1710 · #35 10-08-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I'm not taking JRpreacher's assertion; I know it to be true from a different, and much closer source, and I was told minutes after the nomination--not days later. I was asked not to post it, so I didn't. However, it's obviously common knowledge now.

But...in the interest of not taking third hand assertions or theories, why not call PM yourself and ask him for his reasons? That's the best way to find out the truth, rather than posting nefarious and suggestive "theories" on the internet.

It's unfair to question someone's motives after they've already stated their reasons, and then try to take the high road and pretend you said nothing that could be taken the wrong way. Carefully parsing gossipy prattle into "theories & speculation" doesn't make it different at the core.

The REASON we can move past the theories is BECAUSE PM said the Lord checked him. If you don't believe that coming from reliable sources, then ask him yourself. He's a nice guy; I'm sure he wouldn't mind answering you if you called and asked, "What was your reason for turning down the nomination?"

Last I checked PM was a man, which makes him a sinner like the rest of us. David Koresh and Jim Jones heard from God too.

It is the ultimate trump card, you play that and no one dares question you. So either he wasn't listening very closely in all the time leading up to GC while he was making his case to be the next GS and he suddenly heard God load and clear on that day, or there were other factors involved and that is a neat way to tie up all the ends and say don't dare question my motives.

Tell everyone how gossipy they are all you want, I don't buy it. As Ray Stevens would say, if Jesus cam back tomorrow would he "...admit He's talked to all them preachers who say they been a talkin' to Him?"

Sarah · #36 10-08-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I think we often blame our organizations on coming together for the furtherance of the Gospel of Christ but, in the end, they only serve to divide the body.

Continual splits & schisms because our beliefs aren't exactly alike.

I think Sam is dead right.

Just wondering. When did you become so cynical, Digging?

Digging4Truth · #37 10-08-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah

Just wondering. When did you become so cynical, Digging?

I don't see it as cynical. This is my assessment of what I see.

I'm not saying that the orgs are devilish or that people are evil. What I am stating is that an org is just that... an org. It is a creation of men and a division within the body (unless one org contains all that are in the Body of Christ).

So we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that an org is some God ordained body. There is but one God ordained body and since an org is always a subset of that body it is a division within that Body.

I can't see God busying or concerning himself with the inner workings of a division of what should be whole.

rgcraig · #38 10-08-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I don't see it as cynical. This is my assessment of what I see.

I'm not saying that the orgs are devilish or that people are evil. What I am stating is that an org is just that... an org. It is a creation of men and a division within the body (unless one org contains all that are in the Body of Christ).

So we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that an org is some God ordained body. There is but one God ordained body and since an org is always a subset of that body it is a division within that Body.

I can't see God busying or concerning himself with the inner workings of a division of what should be whole.

I understand exactly what you are saying. God gets blamed for a lot of things at times. It's all too confusing when you stop and thing about it.

Everyone thinks they are right - not everyone can be right. Wilson felt led by God to pull out of UPCI and start their own org. UPCI feels they are doing God's will. wedeclare feel they are making a stand for what God wants --- which one is right?

In the end, men are doing what they feel is right. Is that wrong, not really, but don't say it's all what God wants.

Digging4Truth · #39 10-08-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I understand exactly what you are saying. God gets blamed for a lot of things at times. It's all too confusing when you stop and thing about it.

Everyone thinks they are right - not everyone can be right. Wilson felt led by God to pull out of UPCI and start their own org. UPCI feels they are doing God's will. wedeclare feel they are making a stand for what God wants --- which one is right?

In the end, men are doing what they feel is right. Is that wrong, not really, but don't say it's all what God wants.

Exactly.