Are you saying you'd believe them if they said everything was gone that was there previously, but you don't believe them when they say she was misdiagnosed?
But was she really misdiagnosed, OR would the doctors not want to give God credit for healing?
I was listening to a well known UPC preacher preach on CD this morning and this is what he said verbatim.
“This lady is dying, there is a malignancy in her body, and it is there because of her attitude toward her husband.”
Doctors diagnosed two terminal diseases. The preacher told her to repent to her husband and work things out with him.
Later she went back to the doctors and they said that she was misdiagnosed.
What I wonder about is does God allow people to have disease because of sin or in this case the ladies attitude toward her husband?
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
Are you saying you'd believe them if they said everything was gone that was there previously, but you don't believe them when they say she was misdiagnosed?
I believe that they believe that they misdiagnosed the 2 terminal diseases. But I also know that God works in ways that are way above you and me. It IS possible that they did not misdiagnose, and that God stepped in and took care of the problem, isn't it??
For one thing, no post on this thread said anything about her being ok, only that she was misdiagnosed.
For another, we all sin. Do you think your pastor should openly rebuke you in front of the church everytime you sin? Do you think many people would come to church in that was taking place? Would any preaching even get done?
In addition, when putting scripture in context, we see that Paul was speaking of rebuking ELDERS that sinned, not the saints.
1 Tim 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
IOW, if two or three witnesses come forward with an accusation, the accused are to be rebuked before everyone because the sin has come to light.
As for your other verses, rebuking in a general sense is acceptable. Those verses say nothing about rebuking an individual in front of others.
Context, context, context. It's quite obvious what Paul was saying when you read ALL the scripture.
That Paul guy sure was sending a double message. He stats at the beginning of Chapter 5 to: Rebuke not an elder, but intreat [him] as a father...
and then in verse 20 he changes his tune to: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
I think he missed it somewhere...............NOT!
Just so we get it straight.
One of the greek words for rebuke is elegcho. and it means:
1) to convict, refute, confute
a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
I believe that they believe that they misdiagnosed the 2 terminal diseases. But I also know that God works in ways that are way above you and me. It IS possible that they did not misdiagnose, and that God stepped in and took care of the problem, isn't it??
I totally agree, however, there is nothing that says that something wasn't wrong at all, and that's what I was addressing.
I have been misdiagnosed several times. One of those times resulted in my having brain surgery after the correct diagnosis was made.
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I think the word IF in James 5:15 would inticate that at times the sickness is BECAUSE of SIN.
Not every time, but some of the time.
Also verse 16 tells us (the Church) how to get healed.
James 5:14-16
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
KJV
This is true evidently at certain times it is the cause not everytime but some times.
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