Your answer to illegal immigration.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

You can go over "what ifs" all day, doesn't matter.

There's a legal process, follow it.

Do you believe the process needs reform?

[jfrog]

Any thoughts on that Aquila, what I just posted?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Do you believe the process needs reform?

Perhaps some aspects could be changed. Not amnesty. Not relaxing laws against illegal immigration. Mostly the law just needs to be enforced and abided by.

Instead of kowtowing to the demands of La Raza and other immigrant activists - whose end game is a complete opening of the borders without any legal immigration process - and instead of granting amnesty (a la Reagan) to gain a bigger voting bloc ...

Enforce the law.

There are always changes made by Congress to the number of immigrants allowed - that's fine...Congress has that right and power.

As for Aurelie ... a compelling story. Almost bought it. However, the key words here are "TOURIST VISA."

I entered the U.S. legally (my parents brought me here when I was a teenager, on a tourist Visa).

You came for a visit as a tourist. The Tourist visa has a date it expires. It's quite simple. The legal process is to return to your country and from there, you CAN begin the process of gaining legal status in the US. But you have to leave to do this.

Don't complain about the law. You broke it by remaining here past the date allowed. A tourist visa is to visit the US, not live in the US.

I'm wondering whether or not your parents lied to get you here... A tourist visa is a lot easier to obtain and for the most part, rarely do the Feds follow up to ensure the leave dates are enforced.

You write a compelling story, but sorry ... you broke the law. We don't need to change it to allow you to stay. There is a legal process you conveniently left out. It's not going to be easy because you've stayed past the date and broke the law. It means returning to your country of origin and applying for status from there. But there is a way. You just don't like it.

[SOUNWORTHY]

I sespect if his post is true he is probably from Canada. I rather doubt his post is true.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Aquila

God does not bless their injustices.

Didn't say He did.

He does set them up, allows them.


As for tyranny and evil leaders, most of our illegal immigrants are coming from countries with economic challenges, NOT war torn and bloody nations where there is absolute chaos.


And even if you can come up with some examples of central American countries in the midst of a bloody civil war or ethnic cleansing, there is a way for the residents of those countries to come here legally.


When I knowingly break the law, it is impossible for me to feel sorry for myself.

Just the same, I have no pity for the illegal alien.



I will do all I can to help him/her and their family get back to their homeland.

There's no justification for the existence of illegal aliens in America. None whatsoever.

[Monterrey]

Sad to see you fine upstanding Christians standing up for your less unfortuante brothers.

You live in your cieled houses and reside in safety and wonder why Christians of other countries, specifically Mexico, desire to go to there!

You use words like Christians and Apostolic, yet you are anything but that.

You have no idea what it is like to be an apostolic in Mexico! Unless you have lived in the worst barrios in LA you cannot imagine what constanct fear and terror grips the citizens of a country out of control!

And you wonder why people want to go there from Mexico, that they would brave Coyotes, death, robbery, and thirst to get to freedom!

You give your little diatribes about your feelings!

You don't even have clue what it is really all about!

[Aquila]

Personally, I'd grant them citizenship and then fine them between $200 to $500, put a 1st Degree Misdemeanor on their record, and give them six months probation. Violation of probation in this circumstance would result in a 3rd Degree Felony and one year in prison.

In my opinion this honors the American spirit of desiring all men to be free. It also satisfies our sense of justice by penalizing the law breaker.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sad to see you fine upstanding Christians standing up for your less unfortuante brothers.

You live in your cieled houses and reside in safety and wonder why Christians of other countries, specifically Mexico, desire to go to there!

You use words like Christians and Apostolic, yet you are anything but that.

You have no idea what it is like to be an apostolic in Mexico! Unless you have lived in the worst barrios in LA you cannot imagine what constanct fear and terror grips the citizens of a country out of control!

And you wonder why people want to go there from Mexico, that they would brave Coyotes, death, robbery, and thirst to get to freedom!

You give your little diatribes about your feelings!

You don't even have clue what it is really all about!

If Mexico is that bad then get the word out and I'm sure before long the U.S.A will help. Get the word out and change it from within. Otherwise it seems you are just looking for excuses to come into the U.S.A. I keep on hearing it spoken like we have a mandate to let as many immigrants in that will come. We have no such mandate. The story's are sad this is true. But this country sadly isn't big enough to let everyone with a sad story in. If you really care about freedom why don't you do something to help reform mexico?

[SOUNWORTHY]

Originally Posted by jfrog

If Mexico is that bad then get the word out and I'm sure before long the U.S.A will help. Get the word out and change it from within. Otherwise it seems you are just looking for excuses to come into the U.S.A. I keep on hearing it spoken like we have a mandate to let as many immigrants in that will come. We have no such mandate. The story's are sad this is true. But this country sadly isn't big enough to let everyone with a sad story in. If you really care about freedom why don't you do something to help reform mexico?

Frog, you need to hop down to Mexico and see what it's like before you make rash statements. I have friends who work among the Indians just below Ensenada . I visited them and their work a couple months ago. The living conditions are beyond belief. I have helped support the work for some time but this was the first chance I have had to see what is happening there. The Mexican people are great hard working people. It's the illegals and the legals from other countries other than Mexico that concern me.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY

Frog, you need to hop down to Mexico and see what it's like before you make rash statements. I have friends who work among the Indians just below Ensenada . I visited them and their work a couple months ago. The living conditions are beyond belief. I have helped support the work for some time but this was the first chance I have had to see what is happening there. The Mexican people are great hard working people. It's the illegals and the legals from other countries other than Mexico that concern me.

rash? I suppose we can let every mexican into our country then. Every single one. To me that's the rash statement.