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View Poll Results: Are non-holiness standards Apostolics your brethren?
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maybe
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Yes..but I will not fellowship a backslider
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04-21-2007, 12:01 PM
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Guest
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: In a cold dark cave.....
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Coop, here is a family tree to help you with this intense personal struggle.
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I am not a member here -Do not PM me please?
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04-21-2007, 12:08 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
Posts: 3,611
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Coop, here is a family tree to help you with this intense personal struggle.
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 Thanks Bro!!
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04-21-2007, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NobodyImportant
Seems like he's still grinding the same old axe like on another forum.
Sad.
Some need to just get a life and get on with it.
NI
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You's just jealous 'cause you done lost your own axe......... 
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04-21-2007, 01:10 PM
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Registered
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lancaster, Pa.
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Originally Posted by The Mrs
Very beautiful and moving song!
"As long as there is love..."
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You can stress love all day long, and we should have love one for another. I will be the first to agree with that statement. But If a person is completely out of fellowship with Jesus and they are not living for God, all the love you have for them still does not save that person.
I have lost children and if my love would save them, they would be saved, because the Lord knows I dearly love them and don’t want them to be lost. But they are the ones who choose the way that they should go. God will not force any of us to live for Him. That’s just my opinion.
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04-21-2007, 01:48 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brazil, SA
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Out of fellowship with God is one thing out of fellowship with some organization is another thing...sometimes it seems people put them in the same group.
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04-21-2007, 01:52 PM
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Location: H-Town, Texas
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Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
For the neocon men out there . . .
It's easy for you to preach death and hell on dress standards, since you really don't have to sacrifice much yourself. All you have to do is dress like an ordinary businessman in order to conform to your dress standards.
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Interestingly enough if you don't dress in that business suit when ministering ... your HG is in question.
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04-21-2007, 01:56 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
For the neocon men out there . . .
It's easy for you to preach death and hell on dress standards, since you really don't have to sacrifice much yourself. All you have to do is dress like an ordinary businessman in order to conform to your dress standards.
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Aside from "death and hell", yes it might be easier to preach on standards because there are less of them for men, that alone is not an argument which invalidates the truthfulness of how men and women are to dress and appear
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04-21-2007, 02:27 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve
For the neocon men out there . . .
It's easy for you to preach death and hell on dress standards, since you really don't have to sacrifice much yourself. All you have to do is dress like an ordinary businessman in order to conform to your dress standards.
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For you that seem to think it is so easy to "lift holy hands" ...
I have responded to this specious argument befroe and don't have the tome to repsond right now. Suffice it to say that God deals with the woman in the area of her greatest struggle, namely vanity; and he deals with man in the area of his greatest struggle, namely temptaion and lust.
For a man to "lift holy hands" is much, much more than simply lifting the hands. It means his heart and mind must be pure.
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04-21-2007, 02:28 PM
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Registered Member
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Aside from "death and hell", yes it might be easier to preach on standards because there are less of them for men, that alone is not an argument which invalidates the truthfulness of how men and women are to dress and appear
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It's called a "non-sequitor."
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04-21-2007, 04:12 PM
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Hello AFF!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amarillo, Tx.
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Originally Posted by Hot Coffee Ms.
You can stress love all day long, and we should have love one for another. I will be the first to agree with that statement. But If a person is completely out of fellowship with Jesus and they are not living for God, all the love you have for them still does not save that person.
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Is that a comment toward me, or just in general.
I love and still live for Jesus.
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