Going Olde Skool ... Bringin' Back John 3:16

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by DAII

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Daniel,

To play Devil's advocate, every wonder why John's Gospel was written and to whom?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Tina

This thread is giving me flashbacks of attending VBS with a Southern Baptist friend when I was a kid.

John 3:16 was the first memory verse they made us learn.

The second was John 14:6.

But aren't you a better person for it?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Belief without action is not faith. Belief without endurance is not salvation.

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Action without belief is meaningless - Hebrews 11:6.

Put your faith in the One you serve and not in the works you do - Acts 15:11; Ephesians 2:5-22 (we are His workmanship!).

2 Timothy 1:19 - He called us because of His grace and specifically NOT because of our works.

Titus 3:5 - "NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED US... !!!"

AGAIN - How does baptism save us?

Not by having us get into the water - that's for certain, because Peter says that's for certain! "(not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,)" - - -

Even in the very act of baptism itself, we are saved by something that only Jesus Christ can do - "by the resurrection of Jesus Christ..."

1 Peter 3:21

Don't take Jesus out of baptism. Don't take pride in the manner in which you conduct the baptism rite. Don't condemn others who baptize differently.

Just because you say the phonetic syllables "Gee-zus" when you baptize doesn't mean He has anything to do with your ceremony. Practice that last prepositional phrase from 1 Peter 3:21 when you practice Peter's words from Acts 2:38.

Jesus saves! Not you. Not your pastor. Not your denomination. Not the traditions of your grandparents.

Jesus saves. Jesus only.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by revrandy

So now it's DA and Carlton Pearson...what a team...

More meaningless drivel from a man who has more in common with William Branham.

[Nitehawk013]

Branham had more things right than the easy believe crowd does.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by DAII

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Originally Posted by Justin

Dan,

Was this verse exercised within the book of Acts? After all, it is the early history or the church.

Just one verse which states someone was commanded to simply "believe". Remember, the epistles were written to churches that had already heard and obeyed the gospel message.

[Dimples]

Originally Posted by revrandy

So now it's DA and Carlton Pearson...what a team...

Your posts are like dumping at the sump station before pulling out of the RV Park.

[ChTatum]

John 3:16 is just as important as any other verse. I am not aware of any who overlook it. Belief requires action.

I am more Baptist than many Baptists, I actually believe you should be baptized.

[DAII]

Originally Posted by Justin

Dan,

Was this verse exercised within the book of Acts? After all, it is the early history or the church.

Just one verse which states someone was commanded to simply "believe". Remember, the epistles were written to churches that had already heard and obeyed the gospel message.

Originally Posted by Justin

Justin, are you suggesting the Gospel of John is an epistle? ... or do you subscribe to the Gospel-Acts-Epistles hermeneutic too, in which historical narrative is the locus of control to interpreting God's Word?

I submit that Acts was written to a believer too ... Theophilus.

Nor do I find the Acts 2:38 pattern alluded to in any of the epistles that sought to set salvational and christological straight in light of heresys that these Apostles were seeking to rectify in many of their letters... such as Judaizers, Gnostics, etc.

I see this soteriological verse (John 3:16) amplified and reinforced in John's didactic 1st letter and thematic to all of his writings.

Here are 24 other reasons why this type of hermeneutic is dangerous and unsound ...

http://inchristalone.org/24%20Reason...is%20Wrong.pdf

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Dimples

Your posts are like dumping at the sump station before pulling out of the RV Park.

That's what it feels like around here sometimes....

Good Analogy....