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Old 01-21-2010, 05:13 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

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Logic aside, many of these rules are keeping people from growing in God. Instead, they grow in their religion. They climb the imaginary ladders of social stratu (high school never ends), attend conferences, eat late-night meals, make fun of charismatics and compromisers and encourage secret sin (just look the part). The end result? Carnality. Mind you, carnality that prays through every other Sunday, but spiritual midgets none-the-less.

Certainly generalized, but giving you an example.
Certainly is a generalization - but an accurate one that succeeds in the task of encapsulating a large amount of data into a simple statement.

Thus, a fair and accurate generalization in my opinion.
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:12 PM
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Logic aside, many of these rules are keeping people from growing in God. Instead, they grow in their religion. They climb the imaginary ladders of social stratu (high school never ends), attend conferences, eat late-night meals, make fun of charismatics and compromisers and encourage secret sin (just look the part). The end result? Carnality. Mind you, carnality that prays through every other Sunday, but spiritual midgets none-the-less.

Certainly generalized, but giving you an example.
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Wow. We must know some of the same people somehow, MP! (I was going to put a smiley, but that is really sad, actually...)
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

No matter how you interpret these scriptures, you are left with this fact:

Men and women both wore robes during the time Deut. was written. For over 5,000 years of recorded human history, men and women both wore robes. Now, men and women both wear pants.

Nowhere in the Bible does it demand that men and women dress drastically different. Nowhere does it demand that they must be dressed completely different from the waist down.

There were slight differences in men and women's robes, there are slight differences in men and women's pants.

Women's pants is not a man's garment. I don't know a single man who would be caught dead in a pair of women's pants.

We have taken a cultural issue that was faced during the 1920s or thereabout, and forced Deut. to address that issue. It doesn't. Men had transitioned from robes to pants several hundred years before, now women were making that transition. It caused an uproar, because it was a transition, and transitions always cause an uproar. There is historical evidence that there was the same uproar when men transitioned from robes to pants. They were seen as immodest.

Men and women have worn the same general garment, with some distinctive differences, for most of human history. If you walk into Walmart, you can tell at a glance, without reading the signs, whether you're in the men's clothing department, or the women's. There is still an easily noticeable difference between men's and women's clothing.

I've bought jeans at a garage sale before, thinking they were boys. My sons would begin to put them on, and then whip them right back off, exclaiming - "These are girls' pants! I'm not wearing these!" The cut is different, the pockets are different, the button is different. It's a woman's garment, not a man's. Women's pants don't 'pertain to' a man. They pertain to a woman. That's why my sons won't wear them.
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

@freeatlast: Your reply ONLY states what YOU believe. That doesn't make for a good argument in Biblical Theology. Thats like saying Im right because I "think" I'm right. I am willing to listen to your argument, BUT you are using words and meanings that are NOT present.

I do understand that my 12 yrs of studying Hebrew/Aramaic and my study in the field of BIBLE Translation is limited compared to some. Nevertheless, I must render my decision to stand firm on my "educated" belief, which can be translated to FACT in ANY language.
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@freeatlast: Your reply ONLY states what YOU believe. That doesn't make for a good argument in Biblical Theology. Thats like saying Im right because I "think" I'm right. I am willing to listen to your argument, BUT you are using words and meanings that are NOT present.

I do understand that my 12 yrs of studying Hebrew/Aramaic and my study in the field of BIBLE Translation is limited compared to some. Nevertheless, I must render my decision to stand firm on my "educated" belief, which can be translated to FACT in ANY language.
What about the FACT that they all wore robes?
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@freeatlast: Your reply ONLY states what YOU believe. That doesn't make for a good argument in Biblical Theology. Thats like saying Im right because I "think" I'm right. I am willing to listen to your argument, BUT you are using words and meanings that are NOT present.

I do understand that my 12 yrs of studying Hebrew/Aramaic and my study in the field of BIBLE Translation is limited compared to some. Nevertheless, I must render my decision to stand firm on my "educated" belief, which can be translated to FACT in ANY language.

Holy Cow!! 12 Years? Hey everybody, don't argue with Will! He took a class! He's educated! I'm calling my wife right now and telling her to take her pants off!! Wait------------I mean------------well, you know what I mean. Hopefully.

Just think, studying something for 12 years and he STILL doesn't know what it means. That's too bad.
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Holy Cow!! 12 Years? Hey everybody, don't argue with Will! He took a class! He's educated! I'm calling my wife right now and telling her to take her pants off!! Wait------------I mean------------well, you know what I mean. Hopefully.

Just think, studying something for 12 years and he STILL doesn't know what it means. That's too bad.
Better be careful you don't get your wife in trouble if she takes her pants off.

Remember that poor guy and all the trouble he got into after he misunderstood what his wife meant when she told him to drop his pants at the Dry Cleaner.
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Better be careful you don't get your wife in trouble if she takes her pants off.

Remember that poor guy and all the trouble he got into after he misunderstood what his wife meant when she told him to drop his pants at the Dry Cleaner.


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Just think, studying something for 12 years and he STILL doesn't know what it means. That's too bad.


Is this sorta like "ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth"?
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